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I didn't say Ioannidis denied germ theory. What I implied was that he seems to put findings based on germ theory in the same category as the often/generally fal

I didn't say Ioannidis denied germ theory. What I implied was that he seems to put findings based on germ theory in the same category as the often/generally false/debatable findings of experimental psychology. Then he publishes findings based on completely selective uses of data, apparently with the attitude "nothing is true, I'll take the truth I like".

nwah1 6y ago
Did you read his California study? He sampled blood, and came up with a number. You are inferring a whole lot from that.
- joe_the_user 6y ago
  Yes, I recall the California study was marred by fairly obvious problems - it was looking for the infection rate of a population. The population was known to have a low infection rate and the test had a high false positive rate. He got a result that indicated a ~1-2% infection rate but which was compatible with 0% infection rate and thus was essentially worthless. He's push covid denialism in every conceivable forum open to him and aligned with overtly right wing ideological institutions like the Hoover Institute and the American Institute For Economic Research. This stuff has been gone over so much by now it has skidmarks on it but I'll dust off the file I keep this stuff: A nice article describing the similarity of Covid-denial and Climate-change-denial: https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/04/coronavirus-doubters-follow-climate-denial-playbook/ https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/04/coronavirus-d... An article on the effort to spin the Santa Clara tests befor e they were even release: https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/coronavirus-circulating-california-2019-bunk.html https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/coronavirus-circulating... What's on with Ioannidis: https://undark.org/2020/04/24/john-ioannidis-covid-19-death-rate-critics/ https://undark.org/2020/04/24/john-ioannidis-covid-19-death-... Richard A. Epstein of the Hoover Institution, another Stanford Connected "minimizer" https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-contrarian-coronavirus-theory-that-informed-the-trump-administration https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-contrarian-corona... A summary of several related minimizers, with a similar program: https://arcdigital.media/what-the-federalist-doesnt-get-about-the-importance-of-life-1833c714f08f https://arcdigital.media/what-the-federalist-doesnt-get-abou... Aljazeera gives a broader discussion, why real scientist would do this: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/coronavirus-herd-immunity-eugenics-market-200414104531234.html https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/coronavirus-herd-i...

nwah1 6y ago

Did you read his California study? He sampled blood, and came up with a number. You are inferring a whole lot from that.

joe_the_user 6y ago
Yes, I recall the California study was marred by fairly obvious problems - it was looking for the infection rate of a population. The population was known to have a low infection rate and the test had a high false positive rate. He got a result that indicated a ~1-2% infection rate but which was compatible with 0% infection rate and thus was essentially worthless. He's push covid denialism in every conceivable forum open to him and aligned with overtly right wing ideological institutions like the Hoover Institute and the American Institute For Economic Research. This stuff has been gone over so much by now it has skidmarks on it but I'll dust off the file I keep this stuff: A nice article describing the similarity of Covid-denial and Climate-change-denial: https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/04/coronavirus-doubters-follow-climate-denial-playbook/ https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/04/coronavirus-d... An article on the effort to spin the Santa Clara tests befor e they were even release: https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/coronavirus-circulating-california-2019-bunk.html https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/coronavirus-circulating... What's on with Ioannidis: https://undark.org/2020/04/24/john-ioannidis-covid-19-death-rate-critics/ https://undark.org/2020/04/24/john-ioannidis-covid-19-death-... Richard A. Epstein of the Hoover Institution, another Stanford Connected "minimizer" https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-contrarian-coronavirus-theory-that-informed-the-trump-administration https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-contrarian-corona... A summary of several related minimizers, with a similar program: https://arcdigital.media/what-the-federalist-doesnt-get-about-the-importance-of-life-1833c714f08f https://arcdigital.media/what-the-federalist-doesnt-get-abou... Aljazeera gives a broader discussion, why real scientist would do this: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/coronavirus-herd-immunity-eugenics-market-200414104531234.html https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/coronavirus-herd-i...