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I get that it is a bad article. However, I'm worried about my tinnitus that I got some 20+ days after COVID and an episode of verigo I got 40+ days after, even

by raducu 6y ago

I get that it is a bad article. However, I'm worried about my tinnitus that I got some 20+ days after COVID and an episode of verigo I got 40+ days after, even though I have IgG antibodies. Do I still have the virus in my brain where IgG antibodies cannot pass the blood-brain barrier? Was it just a loose otholith from the medication? Is it just stress post covid? The /r/Covid19Positive subreddit has A LOT of reports of long term issues and reinfections, and dealing with my own issues, I believe most of them. Right now the scientific focus is on prevention and cure, but I'm sure we'll hear more about the long term damage this virua inflicts.

Eric_WVGG 6y ago
This going to sound kind of quacky, but I have an ex-girlfriend who worked for this doctor who created a device that cured chronic vertigoo. The gist is that some cases of vertigo are caused by a loose particle winding up in a fluid canal in the ear. He created this chair that was sort of like the device from the Lawnmower Man, the patient would get strapped in and spun around until the particle dislodged. It worked great, but was a bit too silly (and the company too poorly run) to get investors. So… maybe just for fun, go outside and do cartwheels, tumble down a few hills like a child? Ride some roller-coasters after quar is over? Couldn’t hurt.
- xvedejas 6y ago
  A relative of mine had the issue you describe, and was able to fix it by sitting on her bed and quickly falling sideways, thwacking her head into a pillow. I believe this was the doctor's suggestion, and it worked to dislodge whatever was stuck there.
  - th0ma5 6y ago
    The Epley Maneuver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epley_maneuver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epley_maneuver
    - raducu 6y ago
      Vertigo only happened once for a couple of minutes and my ENT doctor told me to notify her if it hapens again. But the Epley maneuver seems better than being spun on q chair; unless the otholit is stuck, in that case, the spinning chair seem like a good idea.
    - Eric_WVGG 6y ago
      oh yeah, that was his name! Here's the chair: http://www.dr-li.net/360.html http://www.dr-li.net/360.html apparently he passed away last year, pity. Nice fellow.
- Smithalicious 6y ago
  This is credible, doctors also use an exercise where you move your head rapidly in a specific way to treat vertigo.
timr 6y ago
First off: neither I, nor anyone on the internet, is going to diagnose your problem. That said, speculation (which is what is going on with this article, and what happens, wildly, on the subreddit you mention) is useless. People have been free-associating between symptom and disease on the internet since long before Covid, and the quality of the conversation hasn't improved in 2020. So it's one thing to choose to believe that a group of people are sincerely reporting symptoms they perceive to be true, and something very different to believe their attributions to cause. You can't do the latter based on stories from an internet forum. Do you have the virus in your brain? It's unlikely, if only because you're not currently dead of viral meningitis. Moreover, fixation on one limited aspect of the immune response (IgG), ignores the fact that the brain has other immune responses. The immune response is far more sophisticated than IgG alone, and humans have been recovering from viral infections for a long time. If you have tinnitus, it could be any number of different things, ranging from medication (common!) to hearing damage from loud noises (common!) to stress/tension (common!) to post-viral symptoms (rarely). A small percentage of people are reporting similar symptoms after Covid, but then, a very large percentage of people have Tinnitus, in general. It's like the old saying goes: when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Point is: if you're worried about it, talk to your doctor, not to reddit.
- raducu 6y ago
  I was checked by an ENT doctor and I'm keeping in touch with her. She told me she had a patient who went completely deaf after COVID and others complaining about tinnitus and that she's seen this before with other viral infections. Yet there were no article "First romanian man goes deaf after COVID-19" (and people replying "shuuut up, its just one guy, this is circumstantial"). -- my point being, given the chances I heard of the only man going deaf being minuscule, the most likely explanation is there must be(many) others -- but given the current focus, lack of treatment and difficulty in linking the covid with ear problems, there is limited research going on.
  - loopz 6y ago
    There could also be no correlation, or otherwise. Humans often associate too much and too little.

by raducu 6y ago

Eric_WVGG 6y ago

This going to sound kind of quacky, but I have an ex-girlfriend who worked for this doctor who created a device that cured chronic vertigoo. The gist is that some cases of vertigo are caused by a loose particle winding up in a fluid canal in the ear. He created this chair that was sort of like the device from the Lawnmower Man, the patient would get strapped in and spun around until the particle dislodged. It worked great, but was a bit too silly (and the company too poorly run) to get investors. So… maybe just for fun, go outside and do cartwheels, tumble down a few hills like a child? Ride some roller-coasters after quar is over? Couldn’t hurt.

xvedejas 6y ago
A relative of mine had the issue you describe, and was able to fix it by sitting on her bed and quickly falling sideways, thwacking her head into a pillow. I believe this was the doctor's suggestion, and it worked to dislodge whatever was stuck there.
- th0ma5 6y ago
  The Epley Maneuver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epley_maneuver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epley_maneuver
  - raducu 6y ago
    Vertigo only happened once for a couple of minutes and my ENT doctor told me to notify her if it hapens again. But the Epley maneuver seems better than being spun on q chair; unless the otholit is stuck, in that case, the spinning chair seem like a good idea.
  - Eric_WVGG 6y ago
    oh yeah, that was his name! Here's the chair: http://www.dr-li.net/360.html http://www.dr-li.net/360.html apparently he passed away last year, pity. Nice fellow.
Smithalicious 6y ago
This is credible, doctors also use an exercise where you move your head rapidly in a specific way to treat vertigo.

timr 6y ago

First off: neither I, nor anyone on the internet, is going to diagnose your problem. That said, speculation (which is what is going on with this article, and what happens, wildly, on the subreddit you mention) is useless. People have been free-associating between symptom and disease on the internet since long before Covid, and the quality of the conversation hasn't improved in 2020. So it's one thing to choose to believe that a group of people are sincerely reporting symptoms they perceive to be true, and something very different to believe their attributions to cause. You can't do the latter based on stories from an internet forum. Do you have the virus in your brain? It's unlikely, if only because you're not currently dead of viral meningitis. Moreover, fixation on one limited aspect of the immune response (IgG), ignores the fact that the brain has other immune responses. The immune response is far more sophisticated than IgG alone, and humans have been recovering from viral infections for a long time. If you have tinnitus, it could be any number of different things, ranging from medication (common!) to hearing damage from loud noises (common!) to stress/tension (common!) to post-viral symptoms (rarely). A small percentage of people are reporting similar symptoms after Covid, but then, a very large percentage of people have Tinnitus, in general. It's like the old saying goes: when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Point is: if you're worried about it, talk to your doctor, not to reddit.

raducu 6y ago
I was checked by an ENT doctor and I'm keeping in touch with her. She told me she had a patient who went completely deaf after COVID and others complaining about tinnitus and that she's seen this before with other viral infections. Yet there were no article "First romanian man goes deaf after COVID-19" (and people replying "shuuut up, its just one guy, this is circumstantial"). -- my point being, given the chances I heard of the only man going deaf being minuscule, the most likely explanation is there must be(many) others -- but given the current focus, lack of treatment and difficulty in linking the covid with ear problems, there is limited research going on.
- loopz 6y ago
  There could also be no correlation, or otherwise. Humans often associate too much and too little.