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>Really, the mainstream VR game is Beat Saber - that alone has probably sold more VR headsets than any other app or game combined. Ironically, Facebook also ac

>Really, the mainstream VR game is Beat Saber - that alone has probably sold more VR headsets than any other app or game combined. Ironically, Facebook also acquired Beat Games (who makes Beat Saber) last year and effectively ruined it by intentionally breaking all the mods and custom songs, leaving it a shell of its former glory. According to steamcharts [1], player counts peaked around July 2019 and have only dwindled since the acquisition (with the exception of two small bumps when the acquisition happened in November). Average player counts are have been cut in half since then, in less than a year. I have almost 200 hours in Beat Saber, but I haven't played it for almost a year now, now that it's just the same two-dozen songs over and over. [1] https://steamcharts.com/app/620980#1y https://steamcharts.com/app/620980#1y

Aeolun 6y ago
Wait, we can’t do custom songs any more? Then what’s the point of the game?
- andybak 6y ago
  Because the official beatmaps are pretty damn good? (Are custom songs really broken? Haven't tried in a month or so)
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    No doubt about that, but I still enjoy playing to my favorite music much more.
- drusepth 6y ago
  Modders (luckily) keep finding a way. It's just unfortunate for the player that having Facebook as an owner means they need to show more good will in preventing the distribution of custom songs so they don't get held accountable for piracy. I paid attention to the dev discord servers for a few months after the acquisition when they were churning through new mods when the old ones broke and people gave up on trying to maintain them, but haven't checked it recently. I would expect there's probably working mods still, but it's also probably a lot harder to keep them working over time. FB's official stance on modding is that they will support mods that don't engage in "piracy or illicit modding, including mods that infringe on third-party IP rights". [1] [1] https://www.oculus.com/blog/welcoming-beat-games-to-facebook/?locale=fr_FR https://www.oculus.com/blog/welcoming-beat-games-to-facebook...
nvarsj 6y ago
That's really sad to see. I also found the included songs pretty boring, and without custom beatmaps and scoresaber it's not really very good. I wonder what FB's strategy is here - why cut out the enthusiasts?

Aeolun 6y ago

Wait, we can’t do custom songs any more? Then what’s the point of the game?

andybak 6y ago
Because the official beatmaps are pretty damn good? (Are custom songs really broken? Haven't tried in a month or so)
- Aeolun 6y ago
  No doubt about that, but I still enjoy playing to my favorite music much more.
drusepth 6y ago
Modders (luckily) keep finding a way. It's just unfortunate for the player that having Facebook as an owner means they need to show more good will in preventing the distribution of custom songs so they don't get held accountable for piracy. I paid attention to the dev discord servers for a few months after the acquisition when they were churning through new mods when the old ones broke and people gave up on trying to maintain them, but haven't checked it recently. I would expect there's probably working mods still, but it's also probably a lot harder to keep them working over time. FB's official stance on modding is that they will support mods that don't engage in "piracy or illicit modding, including mods that infringe on third-party IP rights". [1] [1] https://www.oculus.com/blog/welcoming-beat-games-to-facebook/?locale=fr_FR https://www.oculus.com/blog/welcoming-beat-games-to-facebook...

nvarsj 6y ago

That's really sad to see. I also found the included songs pretty boring, and without custom beatmaps and scoresaber it's not really very good. I wonder what FB's strategy is here - why cut out the enthusiasts?