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Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)
- davidhyde 6y agoBut what if the virus happens to like your humming?
- samelawrence 6y agoI'm imagining a group of zen little viruses all sitting in lotus position.
- vram22 6y agoTangential joke I read somewhere, in an article about the history of computers: Some spreadsheet software was named Buddha because it would assume the Lotus position. I thought I read it as Excel, but I searched, and found this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Software https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Software See Section "Origins": [ Mitch Kapor got the name for his company from 'The Lotus Position' or 'Padmasana'. Kapor used to be a teacher of Transcendental Meditation technique as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Incidentally, competitor Borland code-named their Quattro Pro software "Buddha", as the software was meant to "assume the Lotus position" and take over Lotus 1-2-3's market. ]
- davio 6y agoSinging may reduce snoring https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11068344/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11068344/
- textech 6y agoI learned about this and many other techniques from the book "The Oxygen Advantage". It definitely makes a big difference but I wouldn't say that it completely resolved it but then I haven't been practicing consistently.
- jfengel 6y agoFrom (2006). Since then it's had 23 cites, mostly in the context of alternative medicine. The one study that seemed to investigate it[1] dismissed it in passing. The guy publishes a lot in Medical Hypotheses, on a wide range of topics (topical gallium for arthritis, taurine for cardiac arrythmia, magnesium for depression). The email address is at "coldcure.com". Which strikes me as having a whiff of crankery to it, but I'm far from my domain of expertise. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghamartaj_Khanbabaee/publication/45183550_Impact_of_Rhinitis_on_Asthma_Control_in_Children_Association_With_FeNO/links/00b7d520a322262726000000.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghamartaj_Khanbabaee/pu...
- dmix 6y agoThis fits the 'novel, unexpected, and unusual' byline that provide the perfect butter for things to go viral. Pseudo-science often has these features sadly (not to assume he's wrong here, even clocks strikes right, etc). Edit: coldcure.com was recently sold off but prior to that it had a long history of hocking naturpath "common cold cure" pills https://web.archive.org/web/20060103011343/http://www.coldcure.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20060103011343/http://www.coldcu... From a 1995 NYTimers article about the author George Elby > MORE than 10 years ago, George A. Eby, a city planner turned self-educated pharmacologist, made headlines with a study showing that zinc lozenges could cut down the average length of a cold to about 4 days from nearly 11. [...] Although several studies have subsequently supported Mr. Eby's initial findings, others have found no such link between zinc and the common cold. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/29/business/patents-751395.html https://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/29/business/patents-751395.h... I'd keep my bullshit meter slightly higher on this one.
- Darkphibre 6y agoHmmmmm In all seriousness, this is rather interesting. Fungus can cause chronic nasal irritation. Nasal nitric oxide (a naturally-generated fungicide) increases 15- to 20-fold by humming compared with quiet exhalation. It's a small dataset, but an interesting hypothesis/finding. I was hoping it'd be more applicable to my situation (exercise-induced rhinitis).
- frompdx 6y agoAn hour a day is a lot. However, as someone who suffers from allergies and is not able to control symptoms with allergy medications alone, I am willing to give it a try (although this method is intended to treat irritation from fungus). Incidentally, this reminds me of something very similar for treating COPD called the "Lung Flute". It also works by using low frequency vibrations to clear the airways in the lungs. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4299801/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4299801/
- hinkley 6y agoI had the same thought. There’s a particular interview about that where the writer confessed that after trying out the flute he fell into a serious coughing fit. But I thought it was more for Cystic Fibrosis than Obstructive Pulmonary disease (they do have their own breathing exercises and devices to increase breathing muscles and lung capacity though).
- treeman79 6y agoA bad coughing fit often means My lungs are clearing. I will feel much better in a bit. Usually after an inhaler. Or I have an embolism. That’s less fun
- hinkley 6y agoAny time lung health comes up and I can squeeze it into conversation: Belly Breathing is amazing. I started in college, and I have had two chest colds in my entire adult life (and only one up until a couple years ago). Diaphragmatic breathing (autocomplete tells me that's the word but it don't look right) assists the cilia in ejecting foreign matter from the lower lungs. When I was a kid I'd feel like I was drowning when the cold hit its apex, even when I was into endurance sports, and I knew I was on the mend when I started clearing my lungs. (If there's a downside it's that I clear my throat all the fucking time when I have a cold now, but I'll take loud over bacterial pneumonia)
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- agbell 6y agoI found, through a coincidence, that lip trills really seemed to open up my sinuses. I wonder if this is related? https://youtu.be/fwNPp-RS4IY https://youtu.be/fwNPp-RS4IY
- scrozart 6y agoThis is meat, and I'll be forwarding it to my ENT and allergist. I have chronic sinus issues that so far have yet to respond to much.
- codr7 6y agoI used to have serious sinus issues but these days it's mostly fine. What changed everything for me was Yogic nose cleansing, running body temperatured salt water through the sinuses on a daily basis. The first few weeks I had really weird stuff coming out with the water, definitely not something you'd want clogged up in your sinuses.
- thaumasiotes 6y agoI have an issue which may or may not be a sinus issue: I have phlegm in my throat, constantly. I need to clear my throat (through voluntary coughing) every few minutes. If I don't do that, the phlegm dries in place and I end up with a restricted airway and difficulty breathing. I can't really sing because my voice will catch on the phlegm. If you know of anyone with this symptom, or who is familiar with this symptom, please let me know. So far I've seen an allergist, an ENT, and a gastroenterologist, and the response from each has been "that's not my problem, see someone else". (The ENT did at least stick a camera through my nose and photograph phlegm stuck to the sides of my throat, which gives me a response to the people who say "what if you're just imagining it?")
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- whoknew1122 6y agoInteresting and might help. I guess? Still strongly suggest going to the doctor if you get sinus infections a lot. After _years_ of trouble I finally went to an ENT. Turns out a poorly-healed broken nose caused a 90% obstruction of a nostril. They fixed my nose, and my sinuses cleared up mostly.
- floatingatoll 6y agoSame story, except congenital defects impairing both airways. Humming might still be helpful now that I’ve had surgery to create airways at all, but it’s no cure for blocked airways themselves.
- blunte 6y agoI wonder if some part of the answer is in the vibration affecting cell behavior (regeneration, reduced inflammation). Vibration sometimes increases circulation to areas being vibrated, and increased circulation feeds more oxygen to cells while they are being agitated.
- njx 6y agoI do mantra chanting and noticed that if I chant it louder then after 5 minutes my nasal congestion starts melting away. So definitely humming helps and if you do rythmic humming like part of mantra then the effects are manifold
- toxyplasma 6y agoI don't have papers handy but I've been using L. Sakei nasal probiotics to treat CRS quite effectively. Not quite cured yet after 5 days but much, much better.
- brigandish 6y agoThanks for bringing this up, I've been wondering lately whether this is an avenue I could explore but it seems others are ahead of me! I already make my own sauerkraut but I'm going to try making kimchi, and I'll get hold of some of the probiotics too. I found these articles on the subject with my first search and they're already opening my eyes: - Loss of normal microbial diversity may be culprit behind chronic sinusitis https://www.news-medical.net/news/20120913/Loss-of-normal-microbial-diversity-may-be-culprit-behind-chronic-sinusitis.aspx https://www.news-medical.net/news/20120913/Loss-of-normal-mi... - The Best Probiotic For Sinus Infections https://lactobacto.com/2018/11/05/the-best-probiotic-for-sinus-infections/ https://lactobacto.com/2018/11/05/the-best-probiotic-for-sin... This article titled "New ways to flush out sinus infections" I found because of another comment but the doctor here also mentions bacterial balance: > Current research in my field suggests this may be caused by the disruption of the natural bacterial habitat of the sinuses by the antibiotics, which is why more doctors are utilizing probiotics https://www.bcm.edu/news/new-ways-to-flush-sinus-infection https://www.bcm.edu/news/new-ways-to-flush-sinus-infection Edit: formatting
- shannifin 6y agoI used to hum a lot when I had bad sinusitis or sinus headaches as I guess the head vibrations just feel soothing... I don't do it as much anymore as it's a good way to drive everyone else crazy.
- biolurker1 6y agoI have a better explanation as a CRS sufferer. It is linked cortisol and stress and the humming soothes them.
- aantix 6y agoFlush your sinuses with baby shampoo. It’s the only thing that has relieved the pressure long term for me. https://www.bcm.edu/news/new-ways-to-flush-sinus-infection https://www.bcm.edu/news/new-ways-to-flush-sinus-infection
- joshspankit 6y agoPlease take this as surprise and curiosity: HOW IS THIS A THING?? Have you noticed any side effects? Do you have to use sterilized water? How do you do the actual flushing??
- fao_ 6y ago"There is a risk of infection if the water is not sterile or the device is not cleaned after use. If the device is used improperly this can be harmful.[4] In fact, proper application suggests the use of boiled water or saline water. In 2018, a patient was reported to have contracted Balamuthia mandrillaris after one month of using tap water filtered through a Brita water purifier for nasal irrigation.[5] Rare cases of fatal naegleriasis have occurred due to nasal insufflation of the amoeba Naegleria fowleri (the "brain-eating amoeba") from untreated tap water. In 2011, two people died from Naegleria fowleri infections tied to using Neti pots containing tap water.[6]" https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Nasal_irrigation https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Nasal_irrigation
- aantix 6y agoIt burns a bit the first time you do it. But that pain gets easier with each flushing, which leads me to believe that the pain is a result of inflammation and not because of some set of vulnerable nerves that I'm agitating. It genuinely helps. Do it for a few days consistently and watch your sinus pain diminish long-term.
- joshspankit 6y agoThank you for circling back on this. It’s just stunning to me. I’m seriously considering trying it now.
- rossdavidh 6y agoComing soon: a patent application on humming. I'm kidding! I hope...
- vram22 6y agoJalaneti (jala is water in Sanskrit, so water neti[1], it is a yoga practice) may help with sinus and other nasal congestion problems. It seems to, for me, anecdotally. Standard disclaimer: not a doctor. But I have been doing jalaneti for years, since my teens. First learned about it from a course at the Yoga Institute[2] of Santa Cruz, Mumbai, India. After jalaneti the nasal passages feel very clean for sometime, and breathing is more free. You can do it once or twice a day. Used with caution, it is not dangerous for healthy adults. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_(Hatha_Yoga) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_(Hatha_Yoga) You can ignore the clairvoyance claim. [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yoga_Institute https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yoga_Institute https://theyogainstitute.org/ https://theyogainstitute.org/
- aitchnyu 6y agoI tried humming for a few minutes and it cleared some mucus. Running also does that but not rehydrating makes it worse. Hyperventilating by imitating Yoga breathing patterns also do. Allegedly singing clears sinuses. Is there any chance of an easy science-backed breathing activity in future?
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