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I agree. It's still a gimmick. It's like the WII basically. Hardcore types chant it's praises and families love to play it for a party game once a year. Other

I agree. It's still a gimmick. It's like the WII basically. Hardcore types chant it's praises and families love to play it for a party game once a year. Other than that, it collects dust compared to your other better mediums that exist.

capableweb 6y ago
Eh, gimmick for some, sure. For others it's a whole new world that they won't leave. For example, got an Oculus for the gimmick and didn't think I'd be so attached to it, but I cannot go back to playing any flight or racing simulator without it again, it's simply not the same. I tried the new FS2020 briefly on launch, but had to go back to X-Plane as FS2020 still doesn't support VR headsets.
- rboyd 6y ago
  so does x-plane work today on quest 2?
  - capableweb 6y ago
    Probably not, Quest 2 is basically running mobile hardware right? X-Plane is a fully fledged flight simulator that barely runs on a powerful desktop PC on highest settings. I'm using a Oculus Rift currently.
    - rboyd 6y ago
      My understanding is Quest 2 can run Rift games using the optional link cable. But I'm not sure if that means it will take advantage of higher resolution on Quest 2 or whether X-Plane devs have to do something new.
      - capableweb 6y ago
        Irrelevant in my case, as getting any Oculus product is out of the question since introducing the new Facebook account requirements.
        CyberDildonics 6y ago
        Why did you say you are using a Rift and then ask if it ran the flight simulator, only to say it is irrelevant to you out of nowhere?
        capableweb 6y ago
        > Why did you say you are using a Rift Because I am > ask if it ran the flight simulator I didn't. I said I use Rift with X-Plane. What is irrelevant is if Quest runs with X-Plane or not, even if it doesn't. The original subject of this thread was if VR is a gimmick or not. I initially replied that yeah, for some it's a gimmick and for others there is really no alternative. Now we're plenty off topic here :)
        CyberDildonics 6y ago
        > What is irrelevant is if Quest runs with X-Plane or not, even if it doesn't Then why ask if the quest runs it?
  - chaostheory 6y ago
    Quest and Quest 2 can play Steam games like Alyx. Since X-Plane is on Steam, I'm going to tentatively say yes. You just need to buy a PC link cable for the Quest. You can get away with a wireless to PC link... but you'll get more lag
chaostheory 6y ago
At worst, it's a low key, more immersive Peloton but really it's a new medium. It feels like when the internet and iPhone first came out. Sure it's not perfect and it's easy for pundits to nitpick, but it's definitely a new world changing paradigm for those who can afford it. I feel that affordability is VR's main weakness.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
I've been around long enough to see previous attempts at 'VR' and those definitely were gimmicks. However, I think calling even the first generation of contemporary VR a gimmick is an exageration. There are some legitimately good experiences to be had in VR right now. Beat Saber is fun as hell, and SUPERHOT VR is great, from personal experience. However, the hardware is still a bit clunky and asks a lot of the user, and developers are still working out what how to design for it. Unfortunately that means a lot of titles are, in fact, pretty damned gimmicky.
staticman2 6y ago
I think VR shows promise as a way to make cardio exercise fun among other things. It's also one of the only cutting edge areas of gaming design where everyone else is just upping resolutions and frame rate.
nvarsj 6y ago
Have you played Alyx or something like that on VR? It's absolutely not a gimmic. It's pretty freakin' amazing.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 6y ago
  The fact that I can pick up a fake class and slosh water in it doesn't change the fact that I'm doing something I can do in real life that is...as equally boring.

capableweb 6y ago

Eh, gimmick for some, sure. For others it's a whole new world that they won't leave. For example, got an Oculus for the gimmick and didn't think I'd be so attached to it, but I cannot go back to playing any flight or racing simulator without it again, it's simply not the same. I tried the new FS2020 briefly on launch, but had to go back to X-Plane as FS2020 still doesn't support VR headsets.

rboyd 6y ago
so does x-plane work today on quest 2?
- capableweb 6y ago
  Probably not, Quest 2 is basically running mobile hardware right? X-Plane is a fully fledged flight simulator that barely runs on a powerful desktop PC on highest settings. I'm using a Oculus Rift currently.
  - rboyd 6y ago
    My understanding is Quest 2 can run Rift games using the optional link cable. But I'm not sure if that means it will take advantage of higher resolution on Quest 2 or whether X-Plane devs have to do something new.
    - capableweb 6y ago
      Irrelevant in my case, as getting any Oculus product is out of the question since introducing the new Facebook account requirements.
      - CyberDildonics 6y ago
        Why did you say you are using a Rift and then ask if it ran the flight simulator, only to say it is irrelevant to you out of nowhere?
        capableweb 6y ago
        > Why did you say you are using a Rift Because I am > ask if it ran the flight simulator I didn't. I said I use Rift with X-Plane. What is irrelevant is if Quest runs with X-Plane or not, even if it doesn't. The original subject of this thread was if VR is a gimmick or not. I initially replied that yeah, for some it's a gimmick and for others there is really no alternative. Now we're plenty off topic here :)
        CyberDildonics 6y ago
        > What is irrelevant is if Quest runs with X-Plane or not, even if it doesn't Then why ask if the quest runs it?
- chaostheory 6y ago
  Quest and Quest 2 can play Steam games like Alyx. Since X-Plane is on Steam, I'm going to tentatively say yes. You just need to buy a PC link cable for the Quest. You can get away with a wireless to PC link... but you'll get more lag

chaostheory 6y ago

At worst, it's a low key, more immersive Peloton but really it's a new medium. It feels like when the internet and iPhone first came out. Sure it's not perfect and it's easy for pundits to nitpick, but it's definitely a new world changing paradigm for those who can afford it. I feel that affordability is VR's main weakness.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago

I've been around long enough to see previous attempts at 'VR' and those definitely were gimmicks. However, I think calling even the first generation of contemporary VR a gimmick is an exageration. There are some legitimately good experiences to be had in VR right now. Beat Saber is fun as hell, and SUPERHOT VR is great, from personal experience. However, the hardware is still a bit clunky and asks a lot of the user, and developers are still working out what how to design for it. Unfortunately that means a lot of titles are, in fact, pretty damned gimmicky.

staticman2 6y ago

I think VR shows promise as a way to make cardio exercise fun among other things. It's also one of the only cutting edge areas of gaming design where everyone else is just upping resolutions and frame rate.

nvarsj 6y ago

Have you played Alyx or something like that on VR? It's absolutely not a gimmic. It's pretty freakin' amazing.

MeinBlutIstBlau 6y ago
The fact that I can pick up a fake class and slosh water in it doesn't change the fact that I'm doing something I can do in real life that is...as equally boring.