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To avoid contributors from Google is ... a feature? What exactly is your problem with them?

by aviraldg 6y ago

Aeolun 6y ago
They’re evil?
- wegs 6y ago
  Microsoft was evil. A pile of GPL code winning was part of what made them stop being evil. Shipping code under Google banned licenses can be thought of as either: 1) Excluding Googlers, which isn't very nice. 2) Applying pressure to de-evil Google, which is very nice and benefits everyone. I'd like to have a non-evil Google again. I really miss the old non-evil, brilliant Google. Organizations change.
  - adambyrtek 6y ago
    What about 3) don't care about Google? Do I really have to consider every big company when choosing a licence for my own personal project?
- marcinzm 6y ago
  No, Google employees as a whole are not evil. I feel that in 2020 we should all be aware of how bad judging whole groups for the actions of a minority are.
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    Google as an organisation is evil. I don’t care about their employees by virtue of that, even though they may be individually good people. Let’s have them do work as individuals instead of Google employees.
  - dbuder 6y ago
    How can we hold the surveillance capitalists to account if not through their employees? Google is having a big cry about Australia's (pretty kooky) laws that will make them pay media companies, fine, but when they put up ads on reddit saying that the process wasn't fair and they weren't consulted enough - I could barely think of anything more rich, when did they ever consult anyone about anything! Nah your account is dust, talk to the hand.
belorn 6y ago
Seems similar to a boycott. A protest of the way google operate, related either to market behavior, privacy, or aspects like their stance on software licenses. A nonviolent, voluntary and intentional abstention from dealing with google, in order to encourage google to alter an objectionable behavior.
panny 6y ago
Google culture is toxic. Google contributors spread the toxic Google culture to everything they touch.

To avoid contributors from Google is ... a feature? What exactly is your problem with them?

Aeolun 6y ago

They’re evil?

wegs 6y ago
Microsoft was evil. A pile of GPL code winning was part of what made them stop being evil. Shipping code under Google banned licenses can be thought of as either: 1) Excluding Googlers, which isn't very nice. 2) Applying pressure to de-evil Google, which is very nice and benefits everyone. I'd like to have a non-evil Google again. I really miss the old non-evil, brilliant Google. Organizations change.
- adambyrtek 6y ago
  What about 3) don't care about Google? Do I really have to consider every big company when choosing a licence for my own personal project?
marcinzm 6y ago
No, Google employees as a whole are not evil. I feel that in 2020 we should all be aware of how bad judging whole groups for the actions of a minority are.
- Aeolun 6y ago
  Google as an organisation is evil. I don’t care about their employees by virtue of that, even though they may be individually good people. Let’s have them do work as individuals instead of Google employees.
- dbuder 6y ago
  How can we hold the surveillance capitalists to account if not through their employees? Google is having a big cry about Australia's (pretty kooky) laws that will make them pay media companies, fine, but when they put up ads on reddit saying that the process wasn't fair and they weren't consulted enough - I could barely think of anything more rich, when did they ever consult anyone about anything! Nah your account is dust, talk to the hand.

belorn 6y ago

Seems similar to a boycott. A protest of the way google operate, related either to market behavior, privacy, or aspects like their stance on software licenses. A nonviolent, voluntary and intentional abstention from dealing with google, in order to encourage google to alter an objectionable behavior.

panny 6y ago

Google culture is toxic. Google contributors spread the toxic Google culture to everything they touch.