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And where do you work? I can probably (almost certainly) find serious ethical lapses in your company, if it's large and/or has been around for a long time. Sh

And where do you work? I can probably (almost certainly) find serious ethical lapses in your company, if it's large and/or has been around for a long time. Shaming people based on their perceived associations is just wrong, no matter what those associations.

louwrentius 6y ago
I won't disclose that but rest assured, I don't work at Facebook or any other similar style company that is a detriment to a stable society. If you work at Facebook, I despise you. (you in the general sense) The foundation of the company is a guy who thought it was OK to create website to rate women. Fucking degenerate people.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  Can you explain (with links please) how Facebook is a "detriment to a stable society". > If you work at Facebook, I despise you. (you in the general sense) I think that is massive hyperbole. Do you despise all the people who work for oil companies also? What about everyone who works for Nestle (all the pushing of formula milk in Africa that led to the deaths of babies), I mean where does it all stop? > The foundation of the company is a guy who thought it was OK to create website to rate women. Fucking degenerate people. He was a 19 year old man at this point (and I'm not even sure that happened anywhere except The Social Network). I'm pretty sure lots of 19 year old males have done things similarly except no one cares, because they're not billionaires.
callmeal 6y ago
>Shaming people based on their perceived associations is just wrong, no matter what those associations. Uh, there's a whole group of people at the end of WWII who would disagree with you.
- piokoch 6y ago
  I think there is some difference between working as a guard in concentration camp and as a toilet cleaner or programmer in HSBC, although HSBC bank was laundering money for drug cartels that also murder people.
- chillacy 6y ago
  Unless they were useful, then in that case their associations suddenly didn't matter... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
snakeboy 6y ago
> if it's large and/or has been around for a long time So why not work for a smaller company with values and a history that you can respect? You make it sound like in a capitalist society we have to sell our souls to a big evil company. Software developers (especially ones have the skills to work for facebook) can work literally anywhere. Lots of them start their own companies. There's simply no excuse for contributing to the success of companies whose values and actions you can't personally endorse and stand behind. Of course I'm not gonna resent some dude working at McDonalds for contributing to the obesity epidemic, but software developers just don't have any excuse.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  Firstly, I'm arguing the general point. Secondly, I'm not a software developer (well maybe I'm slowly becoming one, but it's not my job title). Thirdly, I have looked for ethical companies who'll pay me to analyse data, and I am yet to find any industries that don't have ethical issues. I'm not sure what makes Facebook special in this sense (do you feel the same way about Google, Snap, Twitter and TikTok?).

louwrentius 6y ago

I won't disclose that but rest assured, I don't work at Facebook or any other similar style company that is a detriment to a stable society. If you work at Facebook, I despise you. (you in the general sense) The foundation of the company is a guy who thought it was OK to create website to rate women. Fucking degenerate people.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
Can you explain (with links please) how Facebook is a "detriment to a stable society". > If you work at Facebook, I despise you. (you in the general sense) I think that is massive hyperbole. Do you despise all the people who work for oil companies also? What about everyone who works for Nestle (all the pushing of formula milk in Africa that led to the deaths of babies), I mean where does it all stop? > The foundation of the company is a guy who thought it was OK to create website to rate women. Fucking degenerate people. He was a 19 year old man at this point (and I'm not even sure that happened anywhere except The Social Network). I'm pretty sure lots of 19 year old males have done things similarly except no one cares, because they're not billionaires.

callmeal 6y ago

>Shaming people based on their perceived associations is just wrong, no matter what those associations. Uh, there's a whole group of people at the end of WWII who would disagree with you.

piokoch 6y ago
I think there is some difference between working as a guard in concentration camp and as a toilet cleaner or programmer in HSBC, although HSBC bank was laundering money for drug cartels that also murder people.
chillacy 6y ago
Unless they were useful, then in that case their associations suddenly didn't matter... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

snakeboy 6y ago

> if it's large and/or has been around for a long time So why not work for a smaller company with values and a history that you can respect? You make it sound like in a capitalist society we have to sell our souls to a big evil company. Software developers (especially ones have the skills to work for facebook) can work literally anywhere. Lots of them start their own companies. There's simply no excuse for contributing to the success of companies whose values and actions you can't personally endorse and stand behind. Of course I'm not gonna resent some dude working at McDonalds for contributing to the obesity epidemic, but software developers just don't have any excuse.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
Firstly, I'm arguing the general point. Secondly, I'm not a software developer (well maybe I'm slowly becoming one, but it's not my job title). Thirdly, I have looked for ethical companies who'll pay me to analyse data, and I am yet to find any industries that don't have ethical issues. I'm not sure what makes Facebook special in this sense (do you feel the same way about Google, Snap, Twitter and TikTok?).