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Among other reasons, enterprises love serverless b/c it relieves them of many server maintenance costs and risks. This includes things like: - OS patches an

by cle 6y ago

Among other reasons, enterprises love serverless b/c it relieves them of many server maintenance costs and risks. This includes things like: - OS patches and emergent fixes - Compliance certification - SSH access control and auditing - Secret distribution - Log rotation and storage - TLS termination - Configuring and testing auto-scaling policies - Deployment configuration (rolling deploys, blue/green deployments, connection draining, etc.)

Aeolun 6y ago
They can do the same thing with fargate, and that’s tons easier to manage.
- AWebOfBrown 6y ago
  Fargate is considered a serverless service. Serverless generally encompasses FaaS + BaaS. Think anything whose infrastructure you can use without touching the underlying VM(s): SQS, SNS, EventBridge, RDS, Lambda, Fargate, Athena, Kinesis and so on.
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- iends 6y ago
  Fargate is still pretty expensive.
tupputuppu 6y ago
You don't need serverless for that. Any PaaS such as heroku provides those benefits.
- cle 6y ago
  I'm not really interested in having the 1,000th discussion about the definition of "serverless". The parent was wondering what the value of the paradigm is, so I provided a list of specific features that many companies consider valuable with serverless offerings.
  - joana035 6y ago
    I hope this "risk aversion" mindset starts to apply to code as well. Can't wait for codeless, zero code, nocode, whatever name it gets called... something where normal people can build their own ideas without having meaningless discussion about tdd, frameworks and etc, nor the need to maintain codebases, ci/cd and all the jazz
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    - jlokier 6y ago
      It actually does: "Low-code" is the buzzword to search for. It's been around a while now. Of course like all the things the idea has existed a long time, but "low-code" development services seem to be increasingly popular and visible in the last couple of years, and they do seem to be getting more advanced and ergonomic.
ashtonkem 6y ago
Literally nothing in that list is unique to Serverless. There is in fact at least 2-3 ways to do that in AWS alone using VMs.

by cle 6y ago

Aeolun 6y ago

They can do the same thing with fargate, and that’s tons easier to manage.

AWebOfBrown 6y ago
Fargate is considered a serverless service. Serverless generally encompasses FaaS + BaaS. Think anything whose infrastructure you can use without touching the underlying VM(s): SQS, SNS, EventBridge, RDS, Lambda, Fargate, Athena, Kinesis and so on.
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iends 6y ago
Fargate is still pretty expensive.

tupputuppu 6y ago

You don't need serverless for that. Any PaaS such as heroku provides those benefits.

cle 6y ago
I'm not really interested in having the 1,000th discussion about the definition of "serverless". The parent was wondering what the value of the paradigm is, so I provided a list of specific features that many companies consider valuable with serverless offerings.
- joana035 6y ago
  I hope this "risk aversion" mindset starts to apply to code as well. Can't wait for codeless, zero code, nocode, whatever name it gets called... something where normal people can build their own ideas without having meaningless discussion about tdd, frameworks and etc, nor the need to maintain codebases, ci/cd and all the jazz
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - jlokier 6y ago
    It actually does: "Low-code" is the buzzword to search for. It's been around a while now. Of course like all the things the idea has existed a long time, but "low-code" development services seem to be increasingly popular and visible in the last couple of years, and they do seem to be getting more advanced and ergonomic.

ashtonkem 6y ago

Literally nothing in that list is unique to Serverless. There is in fact at least 2-3 ways to do that in AWS alone using VMs.