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I remember in 2006 when Core processors were launched - when AMD was the top leader of desktop processors. There was a huge fanbase rooting for Intel to beat AM
by fermienrico 6y ago
I remember in 2006 when Core processors were launched - when AMD was the top leader of desktop processors. There was a huge fanbase rooting for Intel to beat AMD in some sort of a competitive fanboy arena. Conroe architecture and the introduction of tick-tock methodology from Intel was absolutely incredible and totally destroyed the competition.
The tides have turned, so perhaps I should now start preparing to root for Intel :)
- tw04 6y agoWhy? Intel has proven when they have the lead they abuse the consumer. Until AMD displays the same behavior, long live the king.
- rangoon626 6y agoMy AMD build has been performing so well I really don’t think I could pick Intel for anything for the foreseeable future. Long live the king indeed!
- CyberDildonics 6y agoHow is a company selling the same thing for the same price "abusing the consumer". They don't sell essential goods and they had no competition. Where does the expectation come from that they would just cut prices for no reason?
- weare138 6y agoIntel didn't beat AMD back in the day because they had a better processor. Intel relied on anti-competitive practices to lock AMD out of the desktop and server markets. They were successfully sued by AMD but the damage was done. Then Intel sat on it's laurels and quit innovating, slowly doling out incremental improvements through their 'tick-tock' release cycle. Intel dug their own hole and I have no sympathy for Intel while AMD buries them in it.
- fermienrico 6y agoI don't agree. Anti-competitive practices from Intel were orthogonal to the success of Conroe. It was a better processor: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1963 https://www.anandtech.com/show/1963 I agree that Intel did engage in a lot of horrible anti-competitive things, but that has nothing to do with how incredible Conroe was. I find it kind of funny how this whole AMD vs Intel competition gets people's emotions running as if its their team and turf.
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- weare138 6y agoAMD created x86-64, Intel had just caught up by that point.
- leetcrew 6y agointel did a bit more than just "catch up"; take a look at the benchmarks in the linked article. they followed it up with solid improvements through sandy/ivy bridge. then they treaded water for eight years or so. even still, after the launch of conroe, amd didn't have a competitive high-end part until zen 2 (excepting a few high core count oddities along the way).
- hashtagmarkup 6y agothe userspace fixes required to make those intel implementation secure did a bit more than question those "improvements".
- eigenvector 6y agoYou appear to be conflating Intel's 1990s antitrust woes and the success of the Core microarchitecture which launched in 2006. Despite Intel's well-documented anti-competitive practices, AMD had decisively gained the upper hand in performance by the time of K8 (2003). Intel's microarchitecture at the time, NetBurst, was uncompetitive and relied almost entirely on inertia, and yes, anti-competitive behaviour to retain market share. Core leap-frogged that and Intel remained ahead for the better part of a decade afterwards. To say that Intel sat on its laurels between the time of the first round of antitrust litigation in the early 90s is quite inaccurate.