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I'm sure there are people who abuse the system, but for you example of clothes, I'm not surprised there is a high number of returns. Last year I bought two Lev

I'm sure there are people who abuse the system, but for you example of clothes, I'm not surprised there is a high number of returns. Last year I bought two Levis jeans at the same time. One the exact same model, color and size as the one I was wearing which was worn out, the other a different color (figured I could use having two pairs of jeans). None fit me correctly. The model I had already was too big, the other too small. Sent both of them back and made the effort to go to a brick and mortar store where I could try them. Turns out the sizes had changed or something. I ended up with a different cut, as the model I had was either too tight on the legs or too wide at the waist...

loeg 6y ago
Levis in particular are just notoriously inconsistent in sizing. At a brick and mortar store you grab five pairs to try on if you want to buy one or two.
- emayljames 6y ago
  For mens sizes I find that very odd, as the size are defined units of measurement, unlike the headache that is womens sizes.
  - Ma8ee 6y ago
    Take out a tape measure and measure the actual size of a few different brands of trousers. They are never even close to the size that's on the label. Maybe men's clothes are more consistent than women's, but the label is always wrong by several inches.
    - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
      IME, except a couple of obvious mislabels, all men's clothes are with a couple of cms - I've never had an item more than a couple of cm out. Cut however, that's a different matter. Honestly some "designers" mustn't realise men have external genitalia.
      - Ma8ee 6y ago
        Did you actually measure? After a few not so successful attempts to buy trousers online did I start to measure, and trousers that are supposed to measure 34" waist measured between 36" and 39".
  - loeg 6y ago
    Men's sizes are only nominally dimensional; there are various sources of potential error, and correcting for them adds cost.
burntoutfire 6y ago
I wouldn't even call it abuse. Buying clothes or shoes is in many cases impossible without trying them on. Also, you can't really see and feel the fabric before it's arrived. Hence, many companies have explicit free and easy return policies to encourage people to order a lot of stuff and keep only what they like. Not very eco-friendly, I know.
rightbyte 6y ago
It is always like that. Jeans expand when you use them. If you gain 3 lbs it might be really tight when getting new ones of the same size. I almost always buy 505s.

loeg 6y ago

Levis in particular are just notoriously inconsistent in sizing. At a brick and mortar store you grab five pairs to try on if you want to buy one or two.

emayljames 6y ago
For mens sizes I find that very odd, as the size are defined units of measurement, unlike the headache that is womens sizes.
- Ma8ee 6y ago
  Take out a tape measure and measure the actual size of a few different brands of trousers. They are never even close to the size that's on the label. Maybe men's clothes are more consistent than women's, but the label is always wrong by several inches.
  - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
    IME, except a couple of obvious mislabels, all men's clothes are with a couple of cms - I've never had an item more than a couple of cm out. Cut however, that's a different matter. Honestly some "designers" mustn't realise men have external genitalia.
    - Ma8ee 6y ago
      Did you actually measure? After a few not so successful attempts to buy trousers online did I start to measure, and trousers that are supposed to measure 34" waist measured between 36" and 39".
- loeg 6y ago
  Men's sizes are only nominally dimensional; there are various sources of potential error, and correcting for them adds cost.

burntoutfire 6y ago

I wouldn't even call it abuse. Buying clothes or shoes is in many cases impossible without trying them on. Also, you can't really see and feel the fabric before it's arrived. Hence, many companies have explicit free and easy return policies to encourage people to order a lot of stuff and keep only what they like. Not very eco-friendly, I know.

rightbyte 6y ago

It is always like that. Jeans expand when you use them. If you gain 3 lbs it might be really tight when getting new ones of the same size. I almost always buy 505s.