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Funnily enough, Sony made that decision for me by ending their awesome "compact" line. I don't even think there's a current smartphone that fits my parameters

Funnily enough, Sony made that decision for me by ending their awesome "compact" line. I don't even think there's a current smartphone that fits my parameters (high-end, 5" or smaller, waterproof, dual SIM.) That said, I've arrived at the "Waste of Money" conclusion regardless. What exactly is the point of buying a new one? I'll rather replace the battery on my XZ2c. It's the green option too.

swarnie_ 6y ago
Can i ask what your requirement for a dual SIM is all about? I've only seen this popular in 3rd world mnarkets.
- pkphilip 6y ago
  If you use Whatsapp you could have two different whatsapp accounts - one for your business with Whatsapp Business and another regular account. For this you need two SIMs
- ptx 6y ago
  One reason for this requirement is that you want one SIM for your work number and one for your private number, so that you don't have to carry two phones. (You could forward one to the other as a workaround, but that doesn't help with SMS or outgoing calls.)
  - user5994461 6y ago
    The second most common reason is if you're split between two countries, home somewhere and home/work abroad, you need to have a SIM for each country.
  - instaheat 6y ago
    That's exactly the use case for me. I own a business and don't want to give out my personal number for anything related to the business side. Helps me stay organized. I know when a call is coming through I know the nature of the call before I pick up.
- ghaff 6y ago
  My use case would be I have my regular SIM and I have a SIM/SIMs for international travel. In practice, I use an older phone for this purpose but if I had dual-SIMs I wouldn't need to.
- noisy_boy 6y ago
  If you stay outside of your home country but still need to operate, say, bank accounts that require a number from the home country itself, dual SIMs are needed, especially for receiving OTPs etc.
humaniania 6y ago
Better cameras, better screen, better battery.
dividuum 6y ago
Isn't the iPhone SE 2020 close to that? Dual sim with eSim, 5.4", waterproof and latest CPU/GPU. I would expect to get at least 5 years of usage including OS updates out of it, so the slightly higher price compared to the XZ2c seems justifiable.
- benhurmarcel 6y ago
  It's not as compact as Sony's old "compact" line.
csunbird 6y ago
Get an iPhone 11 or SE and use eSIM with one of the providers. I am quite happy with my iPhone right now, with a Vodafone eSIM and a physical SIM for my other phone line.
- dawnerd 6y ago
  Apple had a lot of work to do still with dual sims. There’s quite a number of weird quirks from apps expecting only one phone number. T-Mobile’s scam blocker only uses the physical sim. Messages get confused if someone in a group switched to your other number. Etc. One other one I think Apple has resolved recently is sometimes mobile data will stop working until you disable one of the lines.
Ekaros 6y ago
Kinda the reason why I grabbed second of XZ2c when there was good deal out there. Still in unsealed box... Have to wonder when I will swap to that...
mackrevinack 6y ago
i had the z3 compact and then the xz1 compact. really great phones and i still have both of them and use the xz1 for mapillary and then as a music player the rest of the time i begrudgingly upgraded to samsung's s10e because I wanted something with a better camera and also wireless charging. the only thing you would have a problem with is the size of the screen is though. dunno the exact size. its 'small' compared to most phones these days but I would still prefer something a bit smaller. but the way things are going, I won't ever be upgrading again. unless phones start adding back the headphone jack at some point in the future

swarnie_ 6y ago

Can i ask what your requirement for a dual SIM is all about? I've only seen this popular in 3rd world mnarkets.

pkphilip 6y ago
If you use Whatsapp you could have two different whatsapp accounts - one for your business with Whatsapp Business and another regular account. For this you need two SIMs
ptx 6y ago
One reason for this requirement is that you want one SIM for your work number and one for your private number, so that you don't have to carry two phones. (You could forward one to the other as a workaround, but that doesn't help with SMS or outgoing calls.)
- user5994461 6y ago
  The second most common reason is if you're split between two countries, home somewhere and home/work abroad, you need to have a SIM for each country.
- instaheat 6y ago
  That's exactly the use case for me. I own a business and don't want to give out my personal number for anything related to the business side. Helps me stay organized. I know when a call is coming through I know the nature of the call before I pick up.
ghaff 6y ago
My use case would be I have my regular SIM and I have a SIM/SIMs for international travel. In practice, I use an older phone for this purpose but if I had dual-SIMs I wouldn't need to.
noisy_boy 6y ago
If you stay outside of your home country but still need to operate, say, bank accounts that require a number from the home country itself, dual SIMs are needed, especially for receiving OTPs etc.

humaniania 6y ago

Better cameras, better screen, better battery.

dividuum 6y ago

Isn't the iPhone SE 2020 close to that? Dual sim with eSim, 5.4", waterproof and latest CPU/GPU. I would expect to get at least 5 years of usage including OS updates out of it, so the slightly higher price compared to the XZ2c seems justifiable.

benhurmarcel 6y ago
It's not as compact as Sony's old "compact" line.

csunbird 6y ago

Get an iPhone 11 or SE and use eSIM with one of the providers. I am quite happy with my iPhone right now, with a Vodafone eSIM and a physical SIM for my other phone line.

dawnerd 6y ago
Apple had a lot of work to do still with dual sims. There’s quite a number of weird quirks from apps expecting only one phone number. T-Mobile’s scam blocker only uses the physical sim. Messages get confused if someone in a group switched to your other number. Etc. One other one I think Apple has resolved recently is sometimes mobile data will stop working until you disable one of the lines.

Ekaros 6y ago

Kinda the reason why I grabbed second of XZ2c when there was good deal out there. Still in unsealed box... Have to wonder when I will swap to that...

mackrevinack 6y ago

i had the z3 compact and then the xz1 compact. really great phones and i still have both of them and use the xz1 for mapillary and then as a music player the rest of the time i begrudgingly upgraded to samsung's s10e because I wanted something with a better camera and also wireless charging. the only thing you would have a problem with is the size of the screen is though. dunno the exact size. its 'small' compared to most phones these days but I would still prefer something a bit smaller. but the way things are going, I won't ever be upgrading again. unless phones start adding back the headphone jack at some point in the future