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So it was fine when Apple banned Infowars but now it’s different? This is exactly what those free speech advocates meant when talking about slippery slopes: yo
by nickpp 6y ago
So it was fine when Apple banned Infowars but now it’s different?
This is exactly what those free speech advocates meant when talking about slippery slopes: you either support free speech or censure. There is no middle ground.
Disclaimer: I think Infowars is pure, evil sh*t.
- dannyw 6y agoExactly. I don’t care if it’s Infowars, if it’s Gab, or if it’s HK protests, or if it’s Belarus protests. App stores must not be political, even if the politics agree with you.
- yipbub 6y agoOne difference is that that was an app they banned, while I think that was still bad, it's still an order or two of magnitude better. In this case, they're policing user generated content on a platform. The equivalent would be if they asked telegram to block infowars channels, or asked VPN providers to block the infowars website. I had literally just started to defend/advocate-for apple after trash talking it for a while, but clearly I was extremely wrong.
- batrat 6y agoI want what this guy is smoking because I want to believe the government is using chemicals to turn people and frogs gay.
- gonational 6y ago“A 2002 study by Tyrone Hayes, of the University of California, Berkeley, found that exposure caused male tadpoles to turn into hermaphrodites” - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrazine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrazine A later study, funded by Syngenta itself, essentially said “nothing to see here, move along”.
- partyboat1586 6y agoEndocrine disruptors are a real thing[0]. They come from many kinds of pollution. Probably not intentional but they are there. Endocrine disruptors can cause changes in sexual behaviours and expression of primary and secondary sexual characteristics in animals (including humans). Not exactly the same thing but this is the grain of truth in what seems like an entirely absurd idea. [0]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10680769/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10680769/
- DoingIsLearning 6y ago> There is no middle ground. Pause this slippery slope argument for a second. The current situation in Belarus: - Protestors are being imprisoned by unidentified agents in unidentified vehicles - Protestors are being _tortured_ throughout nightly interrogations - Protest _organizers_ have been kidnapped overnight and hanged from trees to get the OMON's point across. This isn't a US politics disinformation twitter ping-ball discussion of who gets to sound the smartest in logical argumentation. This is an actual dictatorship, with real people and real blood.
- im3w1l 6y agoThe reason people want guns and freedom of speech is because they anticipate these kinds of situations. With actual dictatorships and everything. Similar to poker, it rarely goes all the way to showdown. But the possibility of showdown still shapes everything.
- partyboat1586 6y agoIndeed. People in the US are a little complacent because democracy has been in place for enough generations to forget that Dictatorship is the default state.
- sofixa 6y agoSeems to work great in the US, where the nutjbobs with guns and "muh free speech" are at the forefront of fighting against democracy and defending the party and officials doing the most to harm it.
- angry_octet 6y agoExcept all the 'libertarian' and 2A open carry 'militia' are firmly on the side of jack-booted authoritatian police and 'border patrol' 200 miles from the border (or port of entry!). Just cosplay death squads and lynch mobs.
- tzs 6y agoSo let's say I'm a book seller, offering books on a variety of topics. Some particular country does not allow books promoting religions other than their official religion. What am I supposed to do? Refuse to sell books on pet care or calculus or gardening in that country because I can't sell books about Druidism?
- rpdillon 6y agoNot at all! Just let folks shop at different bookstores.