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It's not. They don't allow NSFW apps on iOS even if it's user generated. They have to make it explicitly opt in with significant restrictions. Apple can do wha

It's not. They don't allow NSFW apps on iOS even if it's user generated. They have to make it explicitly opt in with significant restrictions. Apple can do whatever they want on their platform. I wouldn't want to be involved in something illegal such as above when using an app on iOS accidentally.

spacemanmatt 6y ago
Telegram is Apple's own platform? Are you saying Apple is involved in something illegal by allowing Telegram to distribute software through the App Store, since people use it to dox Putin-aligned police in Belarus?
- pleasebegood 6y ago
  There is already a precedent for apple to not allow apps that doesn't align with its content policies even if user generated. Anything NSFW is not allowed by default and without explicit warnings. Porn is not allowed. Drug stores are not allowed. Gab is not allowed. Imageboards aren't. Why would this be different? Apple owns the app store and the iOS platform. They have a duty to protect their customers from clicking on unsightly and wrongful content. Customers expect that from apple. I wouldn't want any kid to end up accessing this channel on telegram.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    > clicking on content If you believe democracy to be unsightly and wrongful, then your believes are reactionary, and must be subject to rectification.
    - pleasebegood 6y ago
      In which world is democracy doxing and planning violence against people?
      - baybal2 6y ago
        In this one
        deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
      - FireBeyond 6y ago
        Against people who, by all intents have literally sabotaged an election and installed themselves as authoritarian rulers? Somehow in your definition democracy is something only allowed to happen organically, if forcefully torn from you by corruption and guns, "oh well".
  - graynk 6y ago
    > They have a duty to protect their customers from clicking on unsightly and wrongful content They don't. > Customers expect that from apple They shouldn't > I wouldn't want any kid to end up accessing this channel on telegram. It's parent's duty to protect their kid however they see fit, not Apple's.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    This argument is completely undermined by Safari.
flower-giraffe 6y ago
> Apple can do whatever they want on their platform. Actually no they can’t much of the world has laws to prevent such abuses of power.
saagarjha 6y ago
> They don't allow NSFW apps on iOS even if it's user generated. Nit: apps may show user-generated adult content (with some restrictions), as long as such content is not the main purpose of the app. So a “porn browser” would not be allowed, but an “internet browser” is.
- graynk 6y ago
  Some channels on Telegram show up as not accessible to Apple users because they "distribute pornography" even in cases when that was not the main purpose of the channel. There were cases when some users reposted porn gifs to group chats, admins did not delete them, then the whole chat got banned after user reported the chat. Notice: it's not even the _app's_ main purpose, they police the content down to specific channels, so the apps may _not_ show NSFW content it seems. I wonder when they'll start blocking specific websites in Safari.

spacemanmatt 6y ago

Telegram is Apple's own platform? Are you saying Apple is involved in something illegal by allowing Telegram to distribute software through the App Store, since people use it to dox Putin-aligned police in Belarus?

pleasebegood 6y ago
There is already a precedent for apple to not allow apps that doesn't align with its content policies even if user generated. Anything NSFW is not allowed by default and without explicit warnings. Porn is not allowed. Drug stores are not allowed. Gab is not allowed. Imageboards aren't. Why would this be different? Apple owns the app store and the iOS platform. They have a duty to protect their customers from clicking on unsightly and wrongful content. Customers expect that from apple. I wouldn't want any kid to end up accessing this channel on telegram.
- baybal2 6y ago
  > clicking on content If you believe democracy to be unsightly and wrongful, then your believes are reactionary, and must be subject to rectification.
  - pleasebegood 6y ago
    In which world is democracy doxing and planning violence against people?
    - baybal2 6y ago
      In this one
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
    - FireBeyond 6y ago
      Against people who, by all intents have literally sabotaged an election and installed themselves as authoritarian rulers? Somehow in your definition democracy is something only allowed to happen organically, if forcefully torn from you by corruption and guns, "oh well".
- graynk 6y ago
  > They have a duty to protect their customers from clicking on unsightly and wrongful content They don't. > Customers expect that from apple They shouldn't > I wouldn't want any kid to end up accessing this channel on telegram. It's parent's duty to protect their kid however they see fit, not Apple's.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  This argument is completely undermined by Safari.

flower-giraffe 6y ago

> Apple can do whatever they want on their platform. Actually no they can’t much of the world has laws to prevent such abuses of power.

saagarjha 6y ago

> They don't allow NSFW apps on iOS even if it's user generated. Nit: apps may show user-generated adult content (with some restrictions), as long as such content is not the main purpose of the app. So a “porn browser” would not be allowed, but an “internet browser” is.

graynk 6y ago
Some channels on Telegram show up as not accessible to Apple users because they "distribute pornography" even in cases when that was not the main purpose of the channel. There were cases when some users reposted porn gifs to group chats, admins did not delete them, then the whole chat got banned after user reported the chat. Notice: it's not even the _app's_ main purpose, they police the content down to specific channels, so the apps may _not_ show NSFW content it seems. I wonder when they'll start blocking specific websites in Safari.