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> The core of the issue (why it gets removed) has been that GPSLogger supports a lot of older devices and frameworks, whereas the Play Store is always trying to

> The core of the issue (why it gets removed) has been that GPSLogger supports a lot of older devices and frameworks, whereas the Play Store is always trying to get everyone onto the latest versions. The enforced obsolescence is infuriating. Whilst you can argue the security implications of older devices, an offline task like being thrown in the top of a backpack recording a gps trace is a great use of old hardware. Google making it difficult for devs going out of their way to support this is upsetting.

anuila 6y ago
Why not just use an older version if you have an older device? Supporting years of ever-changing APIs is evidently painful. As a macOS user I’m kinda used to seeing “latest version for macOS 123 is a.b.c”
- tetris11 6y ago
  Because hardware shouldn't be considered dead if it can easily support new software, and the only hindrance is the profit model of marketplace in which it is distributed
  - anuila 6y ago
    > if it can easily support new software Judging by the author’s comment, it's not easy, that's the whole point.
    - Dylan16807 6y ago
      The hardware is capable of easily supporting the new software, but only if it gets OS updates. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the manufacturers.
- Firerouge 6y ago
  It can be difficult to find older versions of apps from reputable sources, and often as difficult to know what OS version/architectures/screen sizes an old app will work with, at least on Android.
- myself248 6y ago
  "removed from the play store" makes that difficult. Yeah there's probably an APK floating around somewhere...
  - anuila 6y ago
    Regardless of the current status of the specific app, yeah, I think the issue is the inability to download "the latest version supported by your device" directly from the Play Store.
izacus 6y ago
The changes here are not just security but privacy related - new Androids now have permissions like "only allow location while the app is open", which was loudly requested even in HN community (and rightfully so). This does mean that apps now need to take such new features into account and not horribly crash when users want to use them on the phone. Requesting compliance with all new privacy features on Android 9,10,11 is not unreasonable for a store IMO. Especially when sideloading exists.
- wokwokwok 6y ago
  If it’s an issue with newer devices, just don’t show it for newer devices. Or, since it’s a self serve platform, let the author decide not to show it to new devices. Delisting seems rather extreme to me.
  - izacus 6y ago
    For privacy violations I think delisting is reasonable otherwise everyone just ignores it. We developers usually get more than a year of warning to fix the apps which hasn't been too onerous. It does suck for abandonware apps though.

anuila 6y ago

Why not just use an older version if you have an older device? Supporting years of ever-changing APIs is evidently painful. As a macOS user I’m kinda used to seeing “latest version for macOS 123 is a.b.c”

tetris11 6y ago
Because hardware shouldn't be considered dead if it can easily support new software, and the only hindrance is the profit model of marketplace in which it is distributed
- anuila 6y ago
  > if it can easily support new software Judging by the author’s comment, it's not easy, that's the whole point.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    The hardware is capable of easily supporting the new software, but only if it gets OS updates. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the manufacturers.
Firerouge 6y ago
It can be difficult to find older versions of apps from reputable sources, and often as difficult to know what OS version/architectures/screen sizes an old app will work with, at least on Android.
myself248 6y ago
"removed from the play store" makes that difficult. Yeah there's probably an APK floating around somewhere...
- anuila 6y ago
  Regardless of the current status of the specific app, yeah, I think the issue is the inability to download "the latest version supported by your device" directly from the Play Store.

izacus 6y ago

The changes here are not just security but privacy related - new Androids now have permissions like "only allow location while the app is open", which was loudly requested even in HN community (and rightfully so). This does mean that apps now need to take such new features into account and not horribly crash when users want to use them on the phone. Requesting compliance with all new privacy features on Android 9,10,11 is not unreasonable for a store IMO. Especially when sideloading exists.

wokwokwok 6y ago
If it’s an issue with newer devices, just don’t show it for newer devices. Or, since it’s a self serve platform, let the author decide not to show it to new devices. Delisting seems rather extreme to me.
- izacus 6y ago
  For privacy violations I think delisting is reasonable otherwise everyone just ignores it. We developers usually get more than a year of warning to fix the apps which hasn't been too onerous. It does suck for abandonware apps though.