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Well, true that's kinda how Mafia works.

d1zzy 6y ago
Except the Mafia hasn't built from scratch the neighborhood it asks "protection money" from, it already existed there and they pushed out anyone able to stand up to them and started enforcing their rules over the people already living there. Also comparing an organization that terrorizes, mauls and murders people in real life living in their home neighborhood to a company that imposes strict rules to ensure they get a cut of every sale on their own digital platform seems far fetched.
- dingaling 6y ago
  Well one could say that all those mafiosi keep the opportunistic criminals out of the neighborhood and make it safe for the law-abiding businessman and resident. So in essence yes, they built the society by providing a predictable and stable order. Follow the rules and you'll be fine and will be safe from arbitrary crime. A form of societal curation, one might say. And they need paid to keep maintaining this service, and 30% doesn't seem too high does it? For the benefits they provide? Just don't try to fiddle your accounts to hide any other income you have, or try any other tricks; you might find your contract terminated.
- adventured 6y ago
  > Also comparing an organization that terrorizes, mauls and murders people in real life living in their home neighborhood to a company that imposes strict rules to ensure they get a cut of every sale on their own digital platform seems far fetched. It's not far fetched, it's moronic, immature and quotable clickbait trash. The CEO is trying to get attention by saying something blatantly extreme. It's perfectly representative of the age we live in, where people lack self-control and routinely throw outrage tantrums like they're children and desperate for attention at all times. He might as well have declared that Tim Cook is a murderous despot, just go ahead and leap to the finish line for that mental train of stupidity.
ProAm 6y ago
It's protection money. Apple is 'protecting you' from bad actors.
- drummer 6y ago
  Apple is 'protecting' you from what they are going to do to you if you don't do what they want and pay. Much like the government and IRS.
  - ProAm 6y ago
    > Much like the government and IRS. ...and the mafia.
    - drummer 6y ago
      Many people still don't realize government and IRS are the mafia, believe it or not.
      - sudosysgen 6y ago
        While it's true that historically law enforcement and tax collection was essentially the mafia, the difference here is that the IRS is controlled by a democratic organization.
        drummer 6y ago
        You might like to watch this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE
        sudosysgen 6y ago
        Do you have an understanding of the origins of private property? You do know that private property is a pure construct of the State, that the State was created because there was no other way to enforce private property, and that the State must exist as long private property exists, right? I'm taking private property to mean any property that you don't actively use, so for example intellectual property, stocks, and capital writ large. This is why the State has the right to seize property, because they are guarantor of the concept for property to begin with. Ultimately, it is very valid to disagree with State enforcement of property and for the monopoly of violence, but the only logical conclusion for that is anarchism, in a sense that makes capitalism impossible.

Except the Mafia hasn't built from scratch the neighborhood it asks "protection money" from, it already existed there and they pushed out anyone able to stand up to them and started enforcing their rules over the people already living there. Also comparing an organization that terrorizes, mauls and murders people in real life living in their home neighborhood to a company that imposes strict rules to ensure they get a cut of every sale on their own digital platform seems far fetched.

dingaling 6y ago
Well one could say that all those mafiosi keep the opportunistic criminals out of the neighborhood and make it safe for the law-abiding businessman and resident. So in essence yes, they built the society by providing a predictable and stable order. Follow the rules and you'll be fine and will be safe from arbitrary crime. A form of societal curation, one might say. And they need paid to keep maintaining this service, and 30% doesn't seem too high does it? For the benefits they provide? Just don't try to fiddle your accounts to hide any other income you have, or try any other tricks; you might find your contract terminated.
adventured 6y ago
> Also comparing an organization that terrorizes, mauls and murders people in real life living in their home neighborhood to a company that imposes strict rules to ensure they get a cut of every sale on their own digital platform seems far fetched. It's not far fetched, it's moronic, immature and quotable clickbait trash. The CEO is trying to get attention by saying something blatantly extreme. It's perfectly representative of the age we live in, where people lack self-control and routinely throw outrage tantrums like they're children and desperate for attention at all times. He might as well have declared that Tim Cook is a murderous despot, just go ahead and leap to the finish line for that mental train of stupidity.

ProAm 6y ago

It's protection money. Apple is 'protecting you' from bad actors.

drummer 6y ago
Apple is 'protecting' you from what they are going to do to you if you don't do what they want and pay. Much like the government and IRS.
- ProAm 6y ago
  > Much like the government and IRS. ...and the mafia.
  - drummer 6y ago
    Many people still don't realize government and IRS are the mafia, believe it or not.
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      While it's true that historically law enforcement and tax collection was essentially the mafia, the difference here is that the IRS is controlled by a democratic organization.
      - drummer 6y ago
        You might like to watch this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE
        sudosysgen 6y ago
        Do you have an understanding of the origins of private property? You do know that private property is a pure construct of the State, that the State was created because there was no other way to enforce private property, and that the State must exist as long private property exists, right? I'm taking private property to mean any property that you don't actively use, so for example intellectual property, stocks, and capital writ large. This is why the State has the right to seize property, because they are guarantor of the concept for property to begin with. Ultimately, it is very valid to disagree with State enforcement of property and for the monopoly of violence, but the only logical conclusion for that is anarchism, in a sense that makes capitalism impossible.