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One of the more deserving winners of this prize.

by Synaesthesia 6y ago

BurnGpuBurn 6y ago
Speaking of undeserved winners, I so hoped they would give it to the US president again...
- radu_floricica 6y ago
  Well, Obama got it for not being Bush so if Biden wins... They're gonna give him two?
  - shripadk 6y ago
    Oh you can bet they will. I still don't know what Obama got it for. It is a joke!
  - sdfqasdghj2 6y ago
    The committee was changed after the award to Obama. Norwegians were unimpressed by that award as well. It is unlikely to be awarded so frivolously again in the near future.
jansan 6y ago
I fully agree. The Nobel Peace Price had its reputation badly damaged when they gave it to Obama for "becoming president while being black and not George W. Bush".
- jacobush 6y ago
  On the other hand, that's quite the accomplishment nowadays.
  - raxxorrax 6y ago
    Bush did far more damage than Trump in my opinion. He set the direction for policies for decades to come. Terrorism everywhere... An aging western population will keep it that way for a few more.
    - lowdose 6y ago
      But Dick Cheney stripped president Bush to a mere symbolic endeavor while upgraded his span of control as Vice with the executive power Cheney took from W. Bush before they went in office. I highly recommend watching the movie Vice which gives a very telling report on these developments. Some people say Bush behavior after his time in office is very typical for people that experienced severe gaslighting which manifests as a condition similar to Stockholm syndrome. Bush was installed as President and kept in the dark because Dick Cheney had all foreign policies in his power portfolio. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/
      - ecommerceguy 6y ago
        I agree Cheney is as evil as they come but for the love of humanity please don't use fiction as reference. Misinformation is already bad enough out there. Movies are for entertainment that deliberately skew history to pull heart strings to get you to watch and more importantly talk about the movie so others will watch it too providing more revenue for the showrunner.
      - InitialLastName 6y ago
        While I agree that Cheney was probably more powerful than a normal VP, you really need to keep in mind that the movie Vice is still fictionalized, with its own narrative and interpretation of events to push that may or may not have anything to do with reality. That you call it a "telling report" suggests you might also want to revisit your perspective on Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.
- martopix 6y ago
  The Peace prize's reputation is very low for a large number of reasons, including perhaps the one you list.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- punnerud 6y ago
  The award is to be given based on last years effort. Obama had the time between Jan and Oct 2019 in office, where he did several important things to improve world peace.
  - addicted 6y ago
    He did. It was still undeserved.
  - collyw 6y ago
    What did Obama do to improve peace exactly? Trump seems to be a lot more of an anti war president than Obama.
  - 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
    Obamas administration was far more destructive to world peace than Trump who talks a lot of rubbish but haven't dragged America to new conflicts and wars. Also getting rid of that war hawk Bolton itself deserves far more Nobel peace prize.
- implements 6y ago
  I don’t agree - a black person rising to the Presidency given the US’s cultural problem regarding race has achieved something truly noteworthy. And prizes, well they’re not always awards for past actions but instead act as a financial and prestige boost for someone with potential to help them achieve more.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  I think it's easy to forget how dicey the nuclear treaty situation had become by the time Obama took office; Obama's commitment to a real replacement for START was actually quite important. That said, that arguably is just getting the prize for not being Bush.
  - jansan 6y ago
    This is the only valid argument IMO, but still it was premature. They should have waited at least another year.
  - ikerdanzel 6y ago
    ...the prize for not being Bush. It is more like Nobel board hoping to influence him "to" not being Bush. Unfortunately he did, destroying Libya and Syria. He also bomb hospital, killing children. So much for Peace prize. And coming soon next year the full unveiling of Obamagate with the full release of the investigations.

One of the more deserving winners of this prize.

BurnGpuBurn 6y ago

Speaking of undeserved winners, I so hoped they would give it to the US president again...

radu_floricica 6y ago
Well, Obama got it for not being Bush so if Biden wins... They're gonna give him two?
- shripadk 6y ago
  Oh you can bet they will. I still don't know what Obama got it for. It is a joke!
- sdfqasdghj2 6y ago
  The committee was changed after the award to Obama. Norwegians were unimpressed by that award as well. It is unlikely to be awarded so frivolously again in the near future.

jansan 6y ago

I fully agree. The Nobel Peace Price had its reputation badly damaged when they gave it to Obama for "becoming president while being black and not George W. Bush".

jacobush 6y ago
On the other hand, that's quite the accomplishment nowadays.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  Bush did far more damage than Trump in my opinion. He set the direction for policies for decades to come. Terrorism everywhere... An aging western population will keep it that way for a few more.
  - lowdose 6y ago
    But Dick Cheney stripped president Bush to a mere symbolic endeavor while upgraded his span of control as Vice with the executive power Cheney took from W. Bush before they went in office. I highly recommend watching the movie Vice which gives a very telling report on these developments. Some people say Bush behavior after his time in office is very typical for people that experienced severe gaslighting which manifests as a condition similar to Stockholm syndrome. Bush was installed as President and kept in the dark because Dick Cheney had all foreign policies in his power portfolio. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/
    - ecommerceguy 6y ago
      I agree Cheney is as evil as they come but for the love of humanity please don't use fiction as reference. Misinformation is already bad enough out there. Movies are for entertainment that deliberately skew history to pull heart strings to get you to watch and more importantly talk about the movie so others will watch it too providing more revenue for the showrunner.
    - InitialLastName 6y ago
      While I agree that Cheney was probably more powerful than a normal VP, you really need to keep in mind that the movie Vice is still fictionalized, with its own narrative and interpretation of events to push that may or may not have anything to do with reality. That you call it a "telling report" suggests you might also want to revisit your perspective on Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.
martopix 6y ago
The Peace prize's reputation is very low for a large number of reasons, including perhaps the one you list.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
punnerud 6y ago
The award is to be given based on last years effort. Obama had the time between Jan and Oct 2019 in office, where he did several important things to improve world peace.
- addicted 6y ago
  He did. It was still undeserved.
- collyw 6y ago
  What did Obama do to improve peace exactly? Trump seems to be a lot more of an anti war president than Obama.
- 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
  Obamas administration was far more destructive to world peace than Trump who talks a lot of rubbish but haven't dragged America to new conflicts and wars. Also getting rid of that war hawk Bolton itself deserves far more Nobel peace prize.
implements 6y ago
I don’t agree - a black person rising to the Presidency given the US’s cultural problem regarding race has achieved something truly noteworthy. And prizes, well they’re not always awards for past actions but instead act as a financial and prestige boost for someone with potential to help them achieve more.
rsynnott 6y ago
I think it's easy to forget how dicey the nuclear treaty situation had become by the time Obama took office; Obama's commitment to a real replacement for START was actually quite important. That said, that arguably is just getting the prize for not being Bush.
- jansan 6y ago
  This is the only valid argument IMO, but still it was premature. They should have waited at least another year.
- ikerdanzel 6y ago
  ...the prize for not being Bush. It is more like Nobel board hoping to influence him "to" not being Bush. Unfortunately he did, destroying Libya and Syria. He also bomb hospital, killing children. So much for Peace prize. And coming soon next year the full unveiling of Obamagate with the full release of the investigations.