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You sure make a bunch of assumptions for being so emphatic. I didn't drink much of it and bought ketone strips (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Reli-On-Ketone-Test-St

by espeed 16y ago

You sure make a bunch of assumptions for being so emphatic. I didn't drink much of it and bought ketone strips (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Reli-On-Ketone-Test-Strip/13037592 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Reli-On-Ketone-Test-Strip/13037592) to check it periodically -- I was definitely in ketosis throughout the day. "The ketogenic diet mimics a starvation or fasting state by denying the body the carbohydrate it requires to function normally, and forcing it to metabolize fat. As the fat is metabolized ketone bodies are produced. It is the production of the ketone bodies which appears to play a central role in the success of the ketogenic diet. When the body begins producing ketone bodies it is referred to as the body being in ketosis. It usually takes 3 – 5 days for the body to go into ketosis after starting the diet. Ketosis is readily recognized, because the ketones can be detected in the urine, and can be recognized by a characteristic smell of the individual’s breath. The prophylactic properties of the ketogenic diet build up with time and it may take several weeks before the full effect of ketogenic diet is achieved" (UNM School of Medicine, http://hsc.unm.edu/som/coc/clinics/Ketodiet_eng_10Dec09.pdf http://hsc.unm.edu/som/coc/clinics/Ketodiet_eng_10Dec09.pdf).

martythemaniak 16y ago
I just finished a type of low-carb (though non-ketogenic) diet, so I know my terms, thanks. Again, nothing you're saying makes sense. You said you drank nothing but low-calorie/high-carb veg juice for 2 weeks, but now you say that you didn't drink much of it? So where did your calories come from? Or did you just plain starve yourself with 300 calories worth of veg juice a day? If you're gonna play the nutritionist and offer people advice, expect to get called out on things that don't make sense.
- espeed 16y ago
  It was a juice fast (as opposed to a pure water fast), not a juice diet -- calories are restricted, and energy comes, in part, from the ketone bodies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies). And I am not trying to "play the nutritionist" -- I am simply drawing attention to a possible relationship between Lustig's research on "sugar toxicity", the research relating to the effects sugar has on ADHD, and the effects the fast had on my ADD, after my glycogen stores had been depleted.

by espeed 16y ago

martythemaniak 16y ago

I just finished a type of low-carb (though non-ketogenic) diet, so I know my terms, thanks. Again, nothing you're saying makes sense. You said you drank nothing but low-calorie/high-carb veg juice for 2 weeks, but now you say that you didn't drink much of it? So where did your calories come from? Or did you just plain starve yourself with 300 calories worth of veg juice a day? If you're gonna play the nutritionist and offer people advice, expect to get called out on things that don't make sense.

espeed 16y ago
It was a juice fast (as opposed to a pure water fast), not a juice diet -- calories are restricted, and energy comes, in part, from the ketone bodies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies). And I am not trying to "play the nutritionist" -- I am simply drawing attention to a possible relationship between Lustig's research on "sugar toxicity", the research relating to the effects sugar has on ADHD, and the effects the fast had on my ADD, after my glycogen stores had been depleted.