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AMD has produced a "better" CPU before, it didn't result in them taking over the market for CPUs.
by yakz 6y ago
AMD has produced a "better" CPU before, it didn't result in them taking over the market for CPUs.
- kadoban 6y agoTheir market share is already rising. They're not going to "take over", there's too much inertia everywhere for that (and there's business and tech considerations beyond raw performance), but the main reason Intel's stock didn't take a hit is that this was expected.
- x87678r 6y agoIntel is fighting more than just AMD though. Apple ARM chips in MacBooks, Graviton processors in AWS, ARM Chromebooks and gaming computers/consoles just going pure Nvidia/Radeon - not a lot of room for Intel.
- vel0city 6y agoIntel historically hasn't been too big in the console gaming market, at least CPU-wise. Previous generations we've got players like IBM making the chips for the Xbox 360, PS3, and GameCube. AMD made the CPUs on the Xbox One and Playstation 4, along with the upcoming Xbox Series X and Playstation 5. The only somewhat modern game console I can recall with any Intel Inside was the original Xbox, with what was essentially a Pentium III Coppermine CPU. Other than that, they haven't really been a player in console gaming for nearly twenty years. They will really begin to feel the pinch from these latest Ryzen CPUs in the desktop gaming market. AMD had definitely been eating more and more of the value market, but Intel had still been holding the IPC/clock rate wins so it often had a little bit of an edge over AMD for those who don't mind to spend a little premium to get the highest framerates. This launch may make this no longer be true.
- aloknnikhil 6y agoSure. But back then there was no "cloud" either. AWS alone is ramping up on AMD offerings. There's an AMD counterpart for almost every instance type today (suffixed by "a"). I think the world is a lot more ready to leverage multi-core and multi-threaded chips today than ever before.
- borland 6y agoWe moved some of our AWS things over to "a" instances as they were cheaper per unit of performance than the intel ones. They've been great
- baskire 6y agoI see the server market skipping over and and moving to arm. The Apple silicon makes it easier for Silicon Valley Devs to use an arm ecosystem. That way dev/test/staging/prod is the same ish binaries.
- cbozeman 6y agoYeah... and back then Intel was committing so many anti-trust violations that its a miracle the DOJ didn't litigate them into oblivion. Fortunately, they were paid up with the right people, apparently, and the DOJ was laser-focused on Microsoft.
- TeeMassive 6y agoExactly. They are huge in the server / enterprise market. Good luck convincing your boomer boss switching to anything else than the overpriced "enterprise-grade hardware". And that's not even mentioning their compiler.
- luckman212 6y agoPlease don't say "boomer" here. Can you make your point without resorting to ageism and bigotry?
- m463 6y ago"why is this gate here, let's rip it out!" I've worked a lot of places where there was consumer grade and enterprise grade. Sometimes the distinction was more on the marketing side of the scale sometimes less so. But the enterprise customers always got WAY better service. If you're running a business chaos is your enemy and it is costly.
- kmonsen 6y agoLenovo just release enterprise workstation with threadrippers. Just ordered a few P620s for the team. They are compilation monsters.