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But it's a very different business model to ride share, which is based on externalising the costs of the car to the drivers.

• whimsicalism 6y ago
  I agree that it is a very different model, but it's a bit much to say that externalizing car repair costs is what the business model of Uber/Lyft is "based on"
  • disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    Dunno if you'll see this, but when I made my comment, this link was much of my source: https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/04/29/1556557142000/Scoop--the-questionable-economics-of-autonomous-taxi-fleets/ https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/04/29/1556557142000/Scoop--...
    • whimsicalism 6y ago
      Even that paper demonstrates that if you weaken their assumptions about taxi-car occupancy being exactly the same as Uber/Lyft and don't assume that you will have a remote monitor per every 10 cars (unsure why they would include this assumption, even the current Waymo setup doesn't have this), self-driving actually does come out as priced less. They also don't source their cost for CDV, which is substantially lower than any other number I can find cited in paper. Further, the current regulatory framework includes huge wealth transfers/incentives for car ownership, so it's not a fair comparison. For instance, the $130/yr cost of a parking permit in SF is a huge wealth transfer to car owners as that is substantially below what the market-price would be for that permit.
• vernon99 6y ago
  These costs are still included in your ride cost though