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These sentiments are quite familiar to me. That's why I've been building my own HN copy (https://hackerdaily.io https://hackerdaily.io). It shows all posts per

These sentiments are quite familiar to me. That's why I've been building my own HN copy (https://hackerdaily.io https://hackerdaily.io). It shows all posts per day, which has a few benefits: 1. It doesn't become an addictive slot machine that updates every minute. 2. The conversations have already happened, which makes it easier to see which threads are interesting and informative and which are not. It also uses an outline.com like style for the articles, which removes the tracking and spamming and places the focus on the articles itself. It's still in active development and so far I've only used it myself, so all feedback is welcome! Ps. It’s an PWA, so you can add it to your homescreen and use it like an app.

atorodius 6y ago
Nice layout and idea. What do you mean "all posts per day"? Seems it shows a selection?
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  It takes all posts that were posted on a certain day (based on your local timezone) and shows these posts ordered by their score. To keep it clean only posts with a score of 50 or higher are shown. (I might change this number though, if people would like to see less popular posts) E.g. the main page is always 'yesterday', so for me it shows the posts that were posted between 00:00 and 23:59 on Wednesday, but if its already Friday where you are it will show the top posts of Thursday.
- deleted 6y ago
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rane 6y ago
The second point is great one. Occasionally I have to stop reading HN and leave the tab open for a day because I want to read the conversation in full instead of rereading again later trying to figure out which comments are new.
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  I had the exact same problem. There are a lot of interesting discussions, but its way easier to distinguish the interesting from the useless discussions when they're done instead of ongoing. I find that I read more carefully and focused when the discussion are already crystallized, instead of just browsing the latest discussions for some dopamine.
harryf 6y ago
Gotta say Hackerdaily is impressive. Where you pre-load the article for some sites, is that RSS you're using or something else? Also any chance you'd share the source for this?
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  Thank you! I mainly build it to learn GraphQL and Postgres for myself. But if people are interested, I could share the source in the future.
  - zwarag 6y ago
    I'd like to express interest. I really like your take on how to group the information available and think that you design is very pleasant. There is even a movement that thinks building a HN reader is "A spiritual successor to TodoMVC".[1] I don't know if that is of any interest to you but I thought leave that here. [1] https://hnpwa.com/ https://hnpwa.com/
    - RubenvanE 6y ago
      I will start looking into how to make the code open source before launching the project officially! Unfortunately I won't be able to submit the project to https://hnpwa.com https://hnpwa.com since they only allow (more or less) direct copies of HackerNews to their directory. [1] [1] https://github.com/tastejs/hacker-news-pwas https://github.com/tastejs/hacker-news-pwas
okamiueru 6y ago
I like the idea, but I'm wondering about the legality of copying the contents of news.ycombinator. Do you have any thoughts on this?
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  HackerNews has an open API (https://github.com/HackerNews/API https://github.com/HackerNews/API). It doesn't say anything specific about the legality and there have been many HackerNews clones in the past. So as far as I know it should not be a problem, but if anyone can correct me I would love to hear so!
leahshule56 6y ago
Needs dark theme.
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  Done. :)
selfhoster11 6y ago
It doesn't work for me, it shows an empty feed for all days.
smusamashah 6y ago
It looks great. I can't seem to minimize the comments and seeing an exception in console. I am on chrome desktop.
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  That's weird! I've used it mainly on Chrome so far and I've not yet encountered this problem. Does it keep happening or was it once?
  - smusamashah 6y ago
    I keep getting this on most news items for example on https://hackerdaily.io/24741077/comments https://hackerdaily.io/24741077/comments i get this error DOMException: Failed to execute 'appendChild' on 'Node': This node type does not support this method. at Object.appendChild (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:41326) at m (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:54249) at v (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:53880) at _ (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:54335) at P (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:57721) at P (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:57656) at f.__patch__ (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:58133) at f.t._update (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:35072) at f.r (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:65536) at _n.get (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:27248) Folding works in this one though https://hackerdaily.io/24740266/comments https://hackerdaily.io/24740266/comments
benhurmarcel 6y ago
Thank you for that tool. I'd suggest on a post to add a link to the original page on ycombinator.com, in case one wants to read it there. In the same style, I like to use the "top 10/20" on https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  Thank you, I'll probably post it on the main page when It's a bit more finished.
PetitPrince 6y ago
Minor thing: the number are right-aligned but the element doesn't have minimum size, so they still have a cascading layout instead of a straight alignment.
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  Yes, need to fix this. Thank you!
jrm2k6 6y ago
Great job! It really fits the way I consume HN which is just once per day usually. I like the outline.com article style, and also discovered outline.com in the process. I am not a huge fan of the layout for the comments, it feels a bit too big for me and a bit hard to follow along, as it switches between authors and so on, but that might just be a personal preference. You should probably consider making it open-source as it is definitely the type of project I would like to contribute to! Thank you for building this!
- koheripbal 6y ago
  I use this one... https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/
aembleton 6y ago
> It also uses an outline.com like style for the articles, I don't see that. When click on the articles, it is just going to the articles. Otherwise ,it is really nice and I do like the idea of it not becoming an addictive slot machine.
- RubenvanE 6y ago
  It depends on the webpage, if the webpage is not an article it just redirects to the webpage. If there is a book icon before the the title the webpage has been converted to an article.
Nemi 6y ago
I just want to say that you NAILED a UX issue I see with Hackernews comments, at least for me - when I am reading through the comments on a HN post, I often find myself several layers deep into a conversation that I realize I am not interested in any more. Either some facet of the topic, or maybe a side conversation (like the one we having now about HackerDaily). I want to "jump out" of this conversation and back to the "main topic", but I have to scroll up until I get to root of this topic and click the collapse sign (-) next to the parent to easily get to the next conversation tree. However, I may be pages and pages down from where this conversation started and have to page up and up and up. Alternatively, I can page down and down and down to try to find where this topic ends. Neither works very well. But what you do is provide a line of minus signs (-) at the top left that grows and shrinks with the tree and at any time I can click one of these to collapse a parent post! This is great! Being a UX aficionado I am tickled that you have not only seen the same pain, but found an elegant solution for it. Well done!
- 0-_-0 6y ago
  Isn't that the same thing that the [-] sign doesn in HN? Works the same way for me.
  - Nemi 6y ago
    But scroll down. As you scroll down, the line of minus signs grows. When you are 6 comments deep into a conversation (where each comment is a reply to the last. The comments are all indented to the right), there is a line of 6 minus signs at the top left (------). If you click on the second minus sign on the left, it collapses the conversation up to that parent without having to scroll up to that level.
    - 0-_-0 6y ago
      I see! I can see the - signs but clicking them does nothing...
      - Nemi 6y ago
claytoneast 6y ago
I've wanted something like this for a long time, and had resigned myself to using the algolia search, sorting by votes, and looking at the previous week. This is awesome. Thank you for making this!!!
gen220 6y ago
fyi, your site raises security flags on firefox (81.0.1) and chrome (85.0.4183.121) for me. "Peer’s Certificate issuer is not recognized."

atorodius 6y ago

Nice layout and idea. What do you mean "all posts per day"? Seems it shows a selection?

RubenvanE 6y ago
It takes all posts that were posted on a certain day (based on your local timezone) and shows these posts ordered by their score. To keep it clean only posts with a score of 50 or higher are shown. (I might change this number though, if people would like to see less popular posts) E.g. the main page is always 'yesterday', so for me it shows the posts that were posted between 00:00 and 23:59 on Wednesday, but if its already Friday where you are it will show the top posts of Thursday.
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rane 6y ago

The second point is great one. Occasionally I have to stop reading HN and leave the tab open for a day because I want to read the conversation in full instead of rereading again later trying to figure out which comments are new.

RubenvanE 6y ago
I had the exact same problem. There are a lot of interesting discussions, but its way easier to distinguish the interesting from the useless discussions when they're done instead of ongoing. I find that I read more carefully and focused when the discussion are already crystallized, instead of just browsing the latest discussions for some dopamine.

harryf 6y ago

Gotta say Hackerdaily is impressive. Where you pre-load the article for some sites, is that RSS you're using or something else? Also any chance you'd share the source for this?

RubenvanE 6y ago
Thank you! I mainly build it to learn GraphQL and Postgres for myself. But if people are interested, I could share the source in the future.
- zwarag 6y ago
  I'd like to express interest. I really like your take on how to group the information available and think that you design is very pleasant. There is even a movement that thinks building a HN reader is "A spiritual successor to TodoMVC".[1] I don't know if that is of any interest to you but I thought leave that here. [1] https://hnpwa.com/ https://hnpwa.com/
  - RubenvanE 6y ago
    I will start looking into how to make the code open source before launching the project officially! Unfortunately I won't be able to submit the project to https://hnpwa.com https://hnpwa.com since they only allow (more or less) direct copies of HackerNews to their directory. [1] [1] https://github.com/tastejs/hacker-news-pwas https://github.com/tastejs/hacker-news-pwas

okamiueru 6y ago

I like the idea, but I'm wondering about the legality of copying the contents of news.ycombinator. Do you have any thoughts on this?

RubenvanE 6y ago
HackerNews has an open API (https://github.com/HackerNews/API https://github.com/HackerNews/API). It doesn't say anything specific about the legality and there have been many HackerNews clones in the past. So as far as I know it should not be a problem, but if anyone can correct me I would love to hear so!

leahshule56 6y ago

Needs dark theme.

RubenvanE 6y ago
Done. :)

selfhoster11 6y ago

It doesn't work for me, it shows an empty feed for all days.

smusamashah 6y ago

It looks great. I can't seem to minimize the comments and seeing an exception in console. I am on chrome desktop.

RubenvanE 6y ago
That's weird! I've used it mainly on Chrome so far and I've not yet encountered this problem. Does it keep happening or was it once?
- smusamashah 6y ago
  I keep getting this on most news items for example on https://hackerdaily.io/24741077/comments https://hackerdaily.io/24741077/comments i get this error DOMException: Failed to execute 'appendChild' on 'Node': This node type does not support this method. at Object.appendChild (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:41326) at m (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:54249) at v (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:53880) at _ (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:54335) at P (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:57721) at P (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:57656) at f.__patch__ (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:58133) at f.t._update (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:35072) at f.r (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:65536) at _n.get (https://hackerdaily.io/_nuxt/commons/app.977ae7a.js:1:27248) Folding works in this one though https://hackerdaily.io/24740266/comments https://hackerdaily.io/24740266/comments

benhurmarcel 6y ago

Thank you for that tool. I'd suggest on a post to add a link to the original page on ycombinator.com, in case one wants to read it there. In the same style, I like to use the "top 10/20" on https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/

RubenvanE 6y ago
Thank you, I'll probably post it on the main page when It's a bit more finished.

PetitPrince 6y ago

Minor thing: the number are right-aligned but the element doesn't have minimum size, so they still have a cascading layout instead of a straight alignment.

RubenvanE 6y ago
Yes, need to fix this. Thank you!

jrm2k6 6y ago

Great job! It really fits the way I consume HN which is just once per day usually. I like the outline.com article style, and also discovered outline.com in the process. I am not a huge fan of the layout for the comments, it feels a bit too big for me and a bit hard to follow along, as it switches between authors and so on, but that might just be a personal preference. You should probably consider making it open-source as it is definitely the type of project I would like to contribute to! Thank you for building this!

koheripbal 6y ago
I use this one... https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/

aembleton 6y ago

> It also uses an outline.com like style for the articles, I don't see that. When click on the articles, it is just going to the articles. Otherwise ,it is really nice and I do like the idea of it not becoming an addictive slot machine.

RubenvanE 6y ago
It depends on the webpage, if the webpage is not an article it just redirects to the webpage. If there is a book icon before the the title the webpage has been converted to an article.

Nemi 6y ago

I just want to say that you NAILED a UX issue I see with Hackernews comments, at least for me - when I am reading through the comments on a HN post, I often find myself several layers deep into a conversation that I realize I am not interested in any more. Either some facet of the topic, or maybe a side conversation (like the one we having now about HackerDaily). I want to "jump out" of this conversation and back to the "main topic", but I have to scroll up until I get to root of this topic and click the collapse sign (-) next to the parent to easily get to the next conversation tree. However, I may be pages and pages down from where this conversation started and have to page up and up and up. Alternatively, I can page down and down and down to try to find where this topic ends. Neither works very well. But what you do is provide a line of minus signs (-) at the top left that grows and shrinks with the tree and at any time I can click one of these to collapse a parent post! This is great! Being a UX aficionado I am tickled that you have not only seen the same pain, but found an elegant solution for it. Well done!

0-_-0 6y ago
Isn't that the same thing that the [-] sign doesn in HN? Works the same way for me.
- Nemi 6y ago
  But scroll down. As you scroll down, the line of minus signs grows. When you are 6 comments deep into a conversation (where each comment is a reply to the last. The comments are all indented to the right), there is a line of 6 minus signs at the top left (------). If you click on the second minus sign on the left, it collapses the conversation up to that parent without having to scroll up to that level.
  - 0-_-0 6y ago
    I see! I can see the - signs but clicking them does nothing...
    - Nemi 6y ago

claytoneast 6y ago

I've wanted something like this for a long time, and had resigned myself to using the algolia search, sorting by votes, and looking at the previous week. This is awesome. Thank you for making this!!!

gen220 6y ago

fyi, your site raises security flags on firefox (81.0.1) and chrome (85.0.4183.121) for me. "Peer’s Certificate issuer is not recognized."