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I'm pretty sure net core will remain for a long time in the enterprise world before making anything in the more open source / general public. It's 2020 I can't

by Thaxll 6y ago

I'm pretty sure net core will remain for a long time in the enterprise world before making anything in the more open source / general public. It's 2020 I can't name a single server side known application built in net core.

brchn 6y ago
stackoverflow
stepsrabbit 6y ago
Not super popular outside the cryptocurrency niche but BTCPay (https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver) is a good example and has been around for a while.
bishalb 6y ago
https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/tencent-telecommunications-dotnetcore https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/tencent-telecomm...
Rapzid 6y ago
I'm incredibly interested in this. A daydream of mine is to create OSS infrastructure/SRE systems in .Net. F# if it makes sense. <3 F#.
- manigandham 6y ago
  Some links to help: 1. https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet 2. https://github.com/thangchung/awesome-dotnet-core https://github.com/thangchung/awesome-dotnet-core 3. https://dapr.io/ https://dapr.io/ 4. https://www.pulumi.com/blog/dotnet-preview/ https://www.pulumi.com/blog/dotnet-preview/
- FridgeSeal 6y ago
  F# is nice, but always felt like the ignored child whenever I've used it. If you like F#, why not just reap all the functional benefits and write it in Haskell, or Rust which has (arguably) just as strong a functional influence (minus the syntax) as F# does, with the benefit of a stronger type system, and better performance, and these days, probably a bigger community than F# as well.
  - Horusiath 6y ago
    Mostly because of user experience. F# as .NET language has entire ecosystem of high quality libraries to pick from, good IDE support (not as good as Java/C#, but definitely better than Haskell) and smaller learning curve. It's also way more robust than Rust - meaning that you can make a working project with decent performance much quicker. I say that as both F# and Rust developer. IMO the language that covers similar area and may be more tempting to learn is Scala. But if you already know how to utilize .NET platform, then reusing that knowledge in F# is just easier.
  - Rapzid 6y ago
    Basically what Horusiath said. I'm a big fan of C# and the .Net platform as well. Being able to mix C# code in a project is compelling. If C# had a strong native SSH(I'm aware of netssh, but something a bit more official/active) implementation, and a WinRM/Remoting implementation that wasn't hidden inside the Powershell project, I think there would be a .Net OSS tools explosion..
manigandham 6y ago
Sonarr/Radarr/Lidarr/Emby/Ombi/Jackett/Jellyfin are all very popular media servers and download managers built in .NET Bitwarden is a self-hosted lastpass/1password competitor in .NET You've probably used oauth somewhere powered by IdentityServer, played a game built in Unity, and used a mobile app built with Xamarin.
- atraac 6y ago
  Unity's not .NET Core though, and probably won't be for quite a while.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Unity uses a mix of .NET Framework, Mono and their own IL2CPP/Burst compiler stack. In fact it remains to be announced what are their plans regarding .NET 5.
pjmlp 6y ago
Same here, our latest greenfield project was done in .NET Framework 4.7.2 and for the looks of it, the next one might be .NET Framework 4.8. There are plenty of enterprise stuff like SharePoint, Sitecore, GUI components based on commercial partners like Telerik and Component One, among many others that are still on an transition to Core. And for those that already moved there, their stability is still at v1.0 level, better leave the "fun" to others. EDIT: typos and grammar.
- manigandham 6y ago
  Why the long wait?
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Because .NET Core isn't fully compatible with .NET Framework, and there are lots of stuff which people are willing to spend money porting them. In the consulting business "I rewrote X in Y" blog posts only happen when someone takes the time to budget the project, because there is someone doing the math of developer time x cost per hour. Then .NET Framework has been Windows specific for 20 years, there are lots of .NET libraries that are thin wrappers over Windows APIs, or interact with COM/UWP. Porting them to Core means just rewriting everything from scratch, and if they are to remain anyway Windows specific, there is no advantage other than stay on reboot treadmill that Microsoft has started with the UWP/.NET Core (now backing off with Reunion), so they just keep doing .NET Framework as usual.
    - nullsense 6y ago
      That stuff is pretty optional in 2020. I'd argue a lot of it isn't even relevant anymore. Sure, some people will still want/need it, but if you just want to spin up an API .NET Core is good to go.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        Pretty optional in 2020? We are certainly not reading the same RFPs. Spin up an Web API is at most one bullet point among many others.
shanselman 6y ago
Stackoverflow, Bing, UPS, Raygun.com
- drachenstern 6y ago
  Oh Scott... it's not like anyone has heard of StackOverflow and they certainly don't discuss their architecture or performance metrics ... https://stackexchange.com/performance https://stackexchange.com/performance https://hub.packtpub.com/stack-exchange-migrates-to-net-entity-framework-core-ef-core-stack-overflow-to-follow-soon/ https://hub.packtpub.com/stack-exchange-migrates-to-net-enti... And there's definitely nobody can see the current state of their underlying technologies to know about their transitions https://github.com/StackExchange https://github.com/StackExchange So ... this all just sounds weird for a startup with a weird name? /s
andymac4182 6y ago
Here is a few ops apps https://datalust.co/seq https://datalust.co/seq https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell https://github.com/opserver/Opserver https://github.com/opserver/Opserver
otis_inf 6y ago
Going out of beta in a few days: https://github.com/SolutionsDesign/HnD https://github.com/SolutionsDesign/HnD (and already in production). Customer support system. .NET core, asp.net core mvc.
iancooper 6y ago
We build Brighter in .NET Core: https://www.goparamore.io/ https://www.goparamore.io/ Stackshare can be useful to track who is using what, although a lot of folks are not public about it: https://stackshare.io/dot-net-core https://stackshare.io/dot-net-core
m-oswald 6y ago
GitHub Actions
enriverd 6y ago
contasimple.com one of the best invoicing and accounting applications on the cloud
gr8tushar 6y ago
One of the best HR / Payroll solutions - https://www.HRStop.com https://www.HRStop.com . It is in .NET Framework. https://www.HawkHR.com https://www.HawkHR.com is in dotNetCore
cracker4o 6y ago
Thaxll, meant there are no large scale enterprise .net core applications out there. All the examples here are not really large scale and are not used by millions of concurrent users daily. Bing is not fully .net core. Why LinkedIn and Github are not written on .net?

by Thaxll 6y ago

brchn 6y ago

stackoverflow

stepsrabbit 6y ago

Not super popular outside the cryptocurrency niche but BTCPay (https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver) is a good example and has been around for a while.

bishalb 6y ago

https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/tencent-telecommunications-dotnetcore https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/tencent-telecomm...

Rapzid 6y ago

I'm incredibly interested in this. A daydream of mine is to create OSS infrastructure/SRE systems in .Net. F# if it makes sense. <3 F#.

manigandham 6y ago
Some links to help: 1. https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet 2. https://github.com/thangchung/awesome-dotnet-core https://github.com/thangchung/awesome-dotnet-core 3. https://dapr.io/ https://dapr.io/ 4. https://www.pulumi.com/blog/dotnet-preview/ https://www.pulumi.com/blog/dotnet-preview/
FridgeSeal 6y ago
F# is nice, but always felt like the ignored child whenever I've used it. If you like F#, why not just reap all the functional benefits and write it in Haskell, or Rust which has (arguably) just as strong a functional influence (minus the syntax) as F# does, with the benefit of a stronger type system, and better performance, and these days, probably a bigger community than F# as well.
- Horusiath 6y ago
  Mostly because of user experience. F# as .NET language has entire ecosystem of high quality libraries to pick from, good IDE support (not as good as Java/C#, but definitely better than Haskell) and smaller learning curve. It's also way more robust than Rust - meaning that you can make a working project with decent performance much quicker. I say that as both F# and Rust developer. IMO the language that covers similar area and may be more tempting to learn is Scala. But if you already know how to utilize .NET platform, then reusing that knowledge in F# is just easier.
- Rapzid 6y ago
  Basically what Horusiath said. I'm a big fan of C# and the .Net platform as well. Being able to mix C# code in a project is compelling. If C# had a strong native SSH(I'm aware of netssh, but something a bit more official/active) implementation, and a WinRM/Remoting implementation that wasn't hidden inside the Powershell project, I think there would be a .Net OSS tools explosion..

manigandham 6y ago

Sonarr/Radarr/Lidarr/Emby/Ombi/Jackett/Jellyfin are all very popular media servers and download managers built in .NET Bitwarden is a self-hosted lastpass/1password competitor in .NET You've probably used oauth somewhere powered by IdentityServer, played a game built in Unity, and used a mobile app built with Xamarin.

atraac 6y ago
Unity's not .NET Core though, and probably won't be for quite a while.
pjmlp 6y ago
Unity uses a mix of .NET Framework, Mono and their own IL2CPP/Burst compiler stack. In fact it remains to be announced what are their plans regarding .NET 5.

pjmlp 6y ago

Same here, our latest greenfield project was done in .NET Framework 4.7.2 and for the looks of it, the next one might be .NET Framework 4.8. There are plenty of enterprise stuff like SharePoint, Sitecore, GUI components based on commercial partners like Telerik and Component One, among many others that are still on an transition to Core. And for those that already moved there, their stability is still at v1.0 level, better leave the "fun" to others. EDIT: typos and grammar.

manigandham 6y ago
Why the long wait?
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Because .NET Core isn't fully compatible with .NET Framework, and there are lots of stuff which people are willing to spend money porting them. In the consulting business "I rewrote X in Y" blog posts only happen when someone takes the time to budget the project, because there is someone doing the math of developer time x cost per hour. Then .NET Framework has been Windows specific for 20 years, there are lots of .NET libraries that are thin wrappers over Windows APIs, or interact with COM/UWP. Porting them to Core means just rewriting everything from scratch, and if they are to remain anyway Windows specific, there is no advantage other than stay on reboot treadmill that Microsoft has started with the UWP/.NET Core (now backing off with Reunion), so they just keep doing .NET Framework as usual.
  - nullsense 6y ago
    That stuff is pretty optional in 2020. I'd argue a lot of it isn't even relevant anymore. Sure, some people will still want/need it, but if you just want to spin up an API .NET Core is good to go.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      Pretty optional in 2020? We are certainly not reading the same RFPs. Spin up an Web API is at most one bullet point among many others.

shanselman 6y ago

Stackoverflow, Bing, UPS, Raygun.com

drachenstern 6y ago
Oh Scott... it's not like anyone has heard of StackOverflow and they certainly don't discuss their architecture or performance metrics ... https://stackexchange.com/performance https://stackexchange.com/performance https://hub.packtpub.com/stack-exchange-migrates-to-net-entity-framework-core-ef-core-stack-overflow-to-follow-soon/ https://hub.packtpub.com/stack-exchange-migrates-to-net-enti... And there's definitely nobody can see the current state of their underlying technologies to know about their transitions https://github.com/StackExchange https://github.com/StackExchange So ... this all just sounds weird for a startup with a weird name? /s

andymac4182 6y ago

Here is a few ops apps https://datalust.co/seq https://datalust.co/seq https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell https://github.com/opserver/Opserver https://github.com/opserver/Opserver

otis_inf 6y ago

Going out of beta in a few days: https://github.com/SolutionsDesign/HnD https://github.com/SolutionsDesign/HnD (and already in production). Customer support system. .NET core, asp.net core mvc.

iancooper 6y ago

We build Brighter in .NET Core: https://www.goparamore.io/ https://www.goparamore.io/ Stackshare can be useful to track who is using what, although a lot of folks are not public about it: https://stackshare.io/dot-net-core https://stackshare.io/dot-net-core

m-oswald 6y ago

GitHub Actions

enriverd 6y ago

contasimple.com one of the best invoicing and accounting applications on the cloud

gr8tushar 6y ago

One of the best HR / Payroll solutions - https://www.HRStop.com https://www.HRStop.com . It is in .NET Framework. https://www.HawkHR.com https://www.HawkHR.com is in dotNetCore

cracker4o 6y ago

Thaxll, meant there are no large scale enterprise .net core applications out there. All the examples here are not really large scale and are not used by millions of concurrent users daily. Bing is not fully .net core. Why LinkedIn and Github are not written on .net?