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Maybe because middle class left to suburbs leaving mostly ghettos in the cities thus depriving them of them main source of income, the property tax? In this ca

Maybe because middle class left to suburbs leaving mostly ghettos in the cities thus depriving them of them main source of income, the property tax? In this case, the problem will fix itself, because suburbs are the Cold War creation, they can be seen as a compulsory wartime measure. Provided that relationship with China will not reach Cold War standoff levels, they will cease to exist by themselves, because modern people really don't want to live in them.

michaelcampbell 6y ago
> because modern people really don't want to live in them. At least in the US, I doubt this is true, by and large. Given the sheer number of people in them, it seems to strain credulity that most don't want to.
jtdev 6y ago
Beg to differ... many people find city life to be completely antithetical to a life of happiness.
zach_garwood 6y ago
I dunno about that. Here in Chicago we've been seeing a massive migration out of the city to the suburbs for the past several years. In all of the reporting on the topic, no one has mentioned cold war fears as a motivation. It's always high taxes & failing infrastructure given as the reason.
trident1000 6y ago
Thats such an absurd opinion. People live in suburbs because you can raise a family at an affordable price point and not have your children see people shitting on the sidewalk. People also dont want to live around millions of people in close proximity if they can afford it. I lived in NYC for 10 years and its a complete trap that you can't escape because you dont have the logistics or financial means to move out (and I had a white collar job in finance). I had to get very well off before I could move out. Thats the primary reason cities become over-crowded. Its a one way street especially if you're single. Not because they're so great.
rayiner 6y ago
The suburbs are more popular than ever: https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/07/millennials-love-the-burbs https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/07/millennials-l.... It's to even really true in cities that people perceive to be growing and vital. New York City, for example, would be shrinking if it wasn't for the influx of foreign immigrants: https://zicklin.baruch.cuny.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/Paper-Series-Feb.-2018-No.-15-New-Yorkers-on-the-Move.pdf https://zicklin.baruch.cuny.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/.... > The City of New York grew by over 362,000 residents between 2010 and 2016, a growth rate of 4.4% (Table 1). City officials consider this to be among the strongest periods of growth in the last half century (NYC Planning, 2017a). The population grew by 402,000 people through natural increase, and net foreign migration added an additional 500,000 residents. Net domestic migration was -524,000, as more people moved out of the city than moved in.
VLM 6y ago
Blind support of new urbanism used to be a pledge of allegiance on this site; support seems to be shifting to something else, although I don't know what.

michaelcampbell 6y ago

> because modern people really don't want to live in them. At least in the US, I doubt this is true, by and large. Given the sheer number of people in them, it seems to strain credulity that most don't want to.

jtdev 6y ago

Beg to differ... many people find city life to be completely antithetical to a life of happiness.

zach_garwood 6y ago

I dunno about that. Here in Chicago we've been seeing a massive migration out of the city to the suburbs for the past several years. In all of the reporting on the topic, no one has mentioned cold war fears as a motivation. It's always high taxes & failing infrastructure given as the reason.

trident1000 6y ago

Thats such an absurd opinion. People live in suburbs because you can raise a family at an affordable price point and not have your children see people shitting on the sidewalk. People also dont want to live around millions of people in close proximity if they can afford it. I lived in NYC for 10 years and its a complete trap that you can't escape because you dont have the logistics or financial means to move out (and I had a white collar job in finance). I had to get very well off before I could move out. Thats the primary reason cities become over-crowded. Its a one way street especially if you're single. Not because they're so great.

rayiner 6y ago

The suburbs are more popular than ever: https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/07/millennials-love-the-burbs https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/07/millennials-l.... It's to even really true in cities that people perceive to be growing and vital. New York City, for example, would be shrinking if it wasn't for the influx of foreign immigrants: https://zicklin.baruch.cuny.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/Paper-Series-Feb.-2018-No.-15-New-Yorkers-on-the-Move.pdf https://zicklin.baruch.cuny.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/.... > The City of New York grew by over 362,000 residents between 2010 and 2016, a growth rate of 4.4% (Table 1). City officials consider this to be among the strongest periods of growth in the last half century (NYC Planning, 2017a). The population grew by 402,000 people through natural increase, and net foreign migration added an additional 500,000 residents. Net domestic migration was -524,000, as more people moved out of the city than moved in.

VLM 6y ago

Blind support of new urbanism used to be a pledge of allegiance on this site; support seems to be shifting to something else, although I don't know what.