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I could see Apple come out with their own in-house Cloud Computing platform within the next 2 years. - They would be vertically integrated with Apple Silicon

I could see Apple come out with their own in-house Cloud Computing platform within the next 2 years. - They would be vertically integrated with Apple Silicon - Apple themselves are increasingly depending on cloud services - Async/Await in Swift will likely land next year, making Server-Side Swift much more appealing - Apple is greatly increasing cloud / Kubernetes hires - Could share a single Apple Silicon ARM architecture from client(ios) to dev(mac) to cloud

amluto 6y ago
Unless something has changed radically since MacOS Server failed, Apple would either need to do massive software engineering of a sort that they are unfamiliar with or they would need to use a different OS entirely to have a credible cloud offering. Mac OS is unlikely to be able to compete with Linux or FreeBSD in the near future even if the CPU is magically better.
- tpetry 6y ago
  They could have a very bare bone macOS based server operating system specialised for running virtual machines. Dont they have their own xhyve virtualisation layer?
  - ravi-delia 6y ago
    A lot of the prelim work is probably already being done with their docker optimizations.
  - _ph_ 6y ago
    Federighi mentioned during some interviews after the Big Sur presentation, that macOS is a great hypervisor for vitualisation, when asked about Linux on AS Macs. Running Linux in the cloud would equally easy.
snazz 6y ago
Apple’s in-house cloud stuff is mostly Java on commodity Linux servers. I don’t think they are looking to have macOS compete with Linux. Most of the special sauce from GCP and AWS is the integrated software services anyway.
- rnantes 6y ago
  It wouldn’t have to be exclusively macOS. You could likely choose your OS or it could be some kind of containerization.
- algo_trader 6y ago
  > Apple’s in-house cloud stuff is mostly Java Can u give some more details? I am not really familiar with Apple eco-system But wouldn't most of it (storage, web, streaming) be based on commodity C/C++ projects ?

amluto 6y ago

Unless something has changed radically since MacOS Server failed, Apple would either need to do massive software engineering of a sort that they are unfamiliar with or they would need to use a different OS entirely to have a credible cloud offering. Mac OS is unlikely to be able to compete with Linux or FreeBSD in the near future even if the CPU is magically better.

tpetry 6y ago
They could have a very bare bone macOS based server operating system specialised for running virtual machines. Dont they have their own xhyve virtualisation layer?
- ravi-delia 6y ago
  A lot of the prelim work is probably already being done with their docker optimizations.
- _ph_ 6y ago
  Federighi mentioned during some interviews after the Big Sur presentation, that macOS is a great hypervisor for vitualisation, when asked about Linux on AS Macs. Running Linux in the cloud would equally easy.

snazz 6y ago

Apple’s in-house cloud stuff is mostly Java on commodity Linux servers. I don’t think they are looking to have macOS compete with Linux. Most of the special sauce from GCP and AWS is the integrated software services anyway.

rnantes 6y ago
It wouldn’t have to be exclusively macOS. You could likely choose your OS or it could be some kind of containerization.
algo_trader 6y ago
> Apple’s in-house cloud stuff is mostly Java Can u give some more details? I am not really familiar with Apple eco-system But wouldn't most of it (storage, web, streaming) be based on commodity C/C++ projects ?