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And it feels like sinus infection, but on the other hand I can't imagine why I can't smell and taste stuff if I can easily breath. I'm taking already meds for s

by pps 6y ago

And it feels like sinus infection, but on the other hand I can't imagine why I can't smell and taste stuff if I can easily breath. I'm taking already meds for sinus infection, will call my doctor after the weekend if there will be no improvement. Unfortunately in Poland we can't get covid test without having all four symptoms of it... I could do this myself, but it's very pricey and I'm doing my work from home and wearing a mask in shops anyway, so I'll just isolate even more.

bookofjoe 6y ago
Please stop going into shops.
- jlmorton 6y ago
  That would certainly help to stop the spread of Covid, but if everyone followed your advice, we would very quickly find ourselves with an entirely new set of problems. You can't optimize only to stop viral spread. You have to strike some balance between maintaining normalcy and reducing the risk of spread. Covid has killed a million, and will surely kill many more, but global poverty is going to increase this year for the first time in decades, and tens of millions are going go hungry.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    > That would certainly help to stop the spread of Covid, but if everyone followed your advice, we would very quickly find ourselves with an entirely new set of problems. The advice of not going to a store if you're sick with something that resembles Covid? Is that such a large number of people it will have a big cost?
    - Karunamon 6y ago
      The tricky part there is "resembles Covid". The symptoms are so variable from person to person (I've heard it likened to the flu, a bad cold, a mild cold, a sinus infection - all this from different people that tested positive) that nailing those down with any certainty enough to make hard decisions like that on, is basically impossible.
      - the_af 6y ago
        Complete loss of smell and taste seems to be pretty specific to covid19, though. That's more than "resembles covid".
        Karunamon 6y ago
        I completely lose smell and taste every time I get a reasonable respiratory infection. This happens at least once a year.
        the_af 6y ago
        From what people who experienced it told me, it's not the smell & taste loss which come from colds and similar illnesses, where your nose is runny or obstructed. One person told me she was cleaning something with vinegar, her daughter entered the kitchen and told her "mum, this vinegar smell is horrible!" and then it dawned on her she couldn't smell anything. No runny or stuffy nose. She was normal, except she couldn't smell anything. At this point of the pandemic, complete loss of smell and taste of this kind almost certainly indicates covid19, outliers notwithstanding.
        Karunamon 6y ago
        Trust me, I know the difference between being unable to smell/taste because your nose is blocked, and actual anosmia where you can breathe normally but the sense is just gone.
        the_af 6y ago
        Fair enough. I don't know if most people experience anosmia like you describe while having a common cold or the flu, though (I think they don't). From what I've read this symptom is a pretty reliable indicator of covid19, so much so that at this time it pretty much rules out any other diagnosis and it is a strong basis for medical decision making. (Of course, there will always be outliers for any symptom. Decisions still need to be made at the population scale, though).
    - jlmorton 6y ago
      I have to admit I skimmed the parent and didn't read the comment correctly. I have to take back what I said.
  - kaitai 6y ago
    I can manage to buy myself a three-course dinner with wine and dessert (spending a pretty $$) without going into a shop. I've managed to buy hundreds of dollars worth of books from my local bookstores without going into shops. I can lie on my floor gasping for air and get power tools delivered to my porch! Let's be clear about what we want. It sounds like you want people to spend money, not primarily that you want them to enter shops and breathe air and touch things.
war1025 6y ago
This is why I think all the case count numbers are basically garbage. For most people, going to the doctor is more bother than it's worth and half the time they'll tell you that you don't qualify for whatever test or treatment you were hoping to receive anyway. There is a massive disconnect between how many people are testing positive and how many people are actually infected, and it's skewing everyone's perception of the virus.
- kaitai 6y ago
  This seems to have huge geographic variation. Some places you've got to go to the doc & get a referral & they're screening people out of getting the test. Other places, they're having drive-through or walk-up testing for anyone, no questions asked. Of course you'll get different results in these cases.
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by pps 6y ago

bookofjoe 6y ago

Please stop going into shops.

jlmorton 6y ago
That would certainly help to stop the spread of Covid, but if everyone followed your advice, we would very quickly find ourselves with an entirely new set of problems. You can't optimize only to stop viral spread. You have to strike some balance between maintaining normalcy and reducing the risk of spread. Covid has killed a million, and will surely kill many more, but global poverty is going to increase this year for the first time in decades, and tens of millions are going go hungry.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  > That would certainly help to stop the spread of Covid, but if everyone followed your advice, we would very quickly find ourselves with an entirely new set of problems. The advice of not going to a store if you're sick with something that resembles Covid? Is that such a large number of people it will have a big cost?
  - Karunamon 6y ago
    The tricky part there is "resembles Covid". The symptoms are so variable from person to person (I've heard it likened to the flu, a bad cold, a mild cold, a sinus infection - all this from different people that tested positive) that nailing those down with any certainty enough to make hard decisions like that on, is basically impossible.
    - the_af 6y ago
      Complete loss of smell and taste seems to be pretty specific to covid19, though. That's more than "resembles covid".
      - Karunamon 6y ago
        I completely lose smell and taste every time I get a reasonable respiratory infection. This happens at least once a year.
        the_af 6y ago
        From what people who experienced it told me, it's not the smell & taste loss which come from colds and similar illnesses, where your nose is runny or obstructed. One person told me she was cleaning something with vinegar, her daughter entered the kitchen and told her "mum, this vinegar smell is horrible!" and then it dawned on her she couldn't smell anything. No runny or stuffy nose. She was normal, except she couldn't smell anything. At this point of the pandemic, complete loss of smell and taste of this kind almost certainly indicates covid19, outliers notwithstanding.
        Karunamon 6y ago
        Trust me, I know the difference between being unable to smell/taste because your nose is blocked, and actual anosmia where you can breathe normally but the sense is just gone.
        the_af 6y ago
        Fair enough. I don't know if most people experience anosmia like you describe while having a common cold or the flu, though (I think they don't). From what I've read this symptom is a pretty reliable indicator of covid19, so much so that at this time it pretty much rules out any other diagnosis and it is a strong basis for medical decision making. (Of course, there will always be outliers for any symptom. Decisions still need to be made at the population scale, though).
  - jlmorton 6y ago
    I have to admit I skimmed the parent and didn't read the comment correctly. I have to take back what I said.
- kaitai 6y ago
  I can manage to buy myself a three-course dinner with wine and dessert (spending a pretty $$) without going into a shop. I've managed to buy hundreds of dollars worth of books from my local bookstores without going into shops. I can lie on my floor gasping for air and get power tools delivered to my porch! Let's be clear about what we want. It sounds like you want people to spend money, not primarily that you want them to enter shops and breathe air and touch things.

war1025 6y ago

This is why I think all the case count numbers are basically garbage. For most people, going to the doctor is more bother than it's worth and half the time they'll tell you that you don't qualify for whatever test or treatment you were hoping to receive anyway. There is a massive disconnect between how many people are testing positive and how many people are actually infected, and it's skewing everyone's perception of the virus.

kaitai 6y ago
This seems to have huge geographic variation. Some places you've got to go to the doc & get a referral & they're screening people out of getting the test. Other places, they're having drive-through or walk-up testing for anyone, no questions asked. Of course you'll get different results in these cases.
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