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I have an article in my personal wiki titled "How to Unfuck Firefox". It contains a list of the broken default behavior, workarounds, and long-standing unfixed

I have an article in my personal wiki titled "How to Unfuck Firefox". It contains a list of the broken default behavior, workarounds, and long-standing unfixed bugs that have caused me great pain over the last decade. It is thus ironic in the extreme that Mozilla is spending time and money on a campaign called "Unfuck the Internet" at a time that they're coming under fire for squandering their financial resources on CEO pay and pet projects instead of focusing their efforts on disrupting the Chrome/Webkit monopoly.

s17n 6y ago
I think it's gross to pay the CEO a high salary if you're asking people for donations, but Mozilla isn't; they're self-funded. So if they want to blow all that money on their CEO, I guess it's their call.
- luckylion 6y ago
  https://donate.mozilla.org/ https://donate.mozilla.org/ They are asking for donations.
  - Vinnl 6y ago
    The foundation is, but I think the high CEO pay is paid for from the corporation's budget, which is self-funded.
    - freshsqueeze 6y ago
      The current CEO used to be head of the foundation and board, so she was receiving $1M+ a year already, paid with those donations.
    - sp332 6y ago
      Nope, see page 52 https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-2018-form-990.pdf https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-2018-fo...
      - pseudalopex 6y ago
        It says "paid only by related for-profit".
        sp332 6y ago
        Oh right, thanks!
- mercer 6y ago
  sure as hell keeps me from funding them though. We don't need more overpaid CEOs.
  - thotsBgone 6y ago
    Companies need good CEOs to lead them in a good direction, and good CEOs want money.
    - _28jh 6y ago
      Yet somehow it seems like Mozilla is going in a worse direction than ever.
    - thatguy0900 6y ago
      I'm sure people would care far less about ceo pay if they felt Firefox was headed in a good direction
    - banachtarski 6y ago
      You're not wrong, but the contention here is that bad CEOs also want money and by all metrics, the Mozilla ship is going in the wrong direction.
bdekoz 6y ago
can you please link said article directly? searching for the personal wiki title and your HN username shows nothing
- Shared404 6y ago
  Seconding this request.
  - m463 6y ago
    I suspect he didn't mean public wiki
    - Shared404 6y ago
      That would make sense. I missed the word personal in there. Sorry about that.
ksk 6y ago
>instead of focusing their efforts on disrupting the Chrome/Webkit monopoly. How do you know they're not doing that? Its a large organization. Also, it is very hard to hire quality people at lower salaries, its just the nature of the beast. I work in life sciences and we work primarily in the public health sector (vaccines) and it is amazingly hard to find talented scientists when the larger companies in our area vacuum up the talent pool each year. We're not a non-profit, so our salaries are bit higher, but I can imagine how hard it must be hiring for a non-profit. Especially STEM grads. If you're a quality dev at FAANG or some-such, how much of a salary hit are you willing to take to work on an open source browser?
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s17n 6y ago

I think it's gross to pay the CEO a high salary if you're asking people for donations, but Mozilla isn't; they're self-funded. So if they want to blow all that money on their CEO, I guess it's their call.

luckylion 6y ago
https://donate.mozilla.org/ https://donate.mozilla.org/ They are asking for donations.
- Vinnl 6y ago
  The foundation is, but I think the high CEO pay is paid for from the corporation's budget, which is self-funded.
  - freshsqueeze 6y ago
    The current CEO used to be head of the foundation and board, so she was receiving $1M+ a year already, paid with those donations.
  - sp332 6y ago
    Nope, see page 52 https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-2018-form-990.pdf https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-2018-fo...
    - pseudalopex 6y ago
      It says "paid only by related for-profit".
      - sp332 6y ago
        Oh right, thanks!
mercer 6y ago
sure as hell keeps me from funding them though. We don't need more overpaid CEOs.
- thotsBgone 6y ago
  Companies need good CEOs to lead them in a good direction, and good CEOs want money.
  - _28jh 6y ago
    Yet somehow it seems like Mozilla is going in a worse direction than ever.
  - thatguy0900 6y ago
    I'm sure people would care far less about ceo pay if they felt Firefox was headed in a good direction
  - banachtarski 6y ago
    You're not wrong, but the contention here is that bad CEOs also want money and by all metrics, the Mozilla ship is going in the wrong direction.

bdekoz 6y ago

can you please link said article directly? searching for the personal wiki title and your HN username shows nothing

Shared404 6y ago
Seconding this request.
- m463 6y ago
  I suspect he didn't mean public wiki
  - Shared404 6y ago
    That would make sense. I missed the word personal in there. Sorry about that.

ksk 6y ago

>instead of focusing their efforts on disrupting the Chrome/Webkit monopoly. How do you know they're not doing that? Its a large organization. Also, it is very hard to hire quality people at lower salaries, its just the nature of the beast. I work in life sciences and we work primarily in the public health sector (vaccines) and it is amazingly hard to find talented scientists when the larger companies in our area vacuum up the talent pool each year. We're not a non-profit, so our salaries are bit higher, but I can imagine how hard it must be hiring for a non-profit. Especially STEM grads. If you're a quality dev at FAANG or some-such, how much of a salary hit are you willing to take to work on an open source browser?

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