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See the thing is, I think I have a decent sense of what looks good and what doesn't, but I just have no idea about common design patterns and how to create the

by jnhnum1 16y ago

See the thing is, I think I have a decent sense of what looks good and what doesn't, but I just have no idea about common design patterns and how to create the designs I envision. I also am reluctant to believe that this can't be learned.

duiker101 16y ago
It can be learned, but it's hard, you might be able to use every single future of any graphic tool, but if you(or anyone, me too) lack of that feeling that usually a good designer have from birth, it's really hard to get, For example an icon or a logo, can be just 3 or for lines or a simple canvas, very easy to do, but what is hard to get is the idea, that's what is important that's what i pay for. This is my opinion.
SabrinaDent 16y ago
I'm a web designer by trade. While I think I have a good innate layout and design sense that I've been working since the days of print, I certainly do not believe it can't be learned. If your goal is to produce product, though, you have to consider if there's a long term time/money benefit to learning. I license layouts from Theme Forest and icons Graphic River for clients all the time when budgets are tight and money is an issue. There's no shame in it. It's very efficient and in the right hands, effective. For me the biggest advantage is that they do backend stuff as well, which since that is God's most tedious job, is a real bonus. It is so much easier when you have somewhere to start.
webwright 16y ago
Of course it can be learned. 10,000 hours to mastery of anything is what they say. Substantially less if you want to be passably good at it. Best advice I've ever heard on design is "copy, copy, copy, copy until you don't need to". Themeforest or TemplateMonster are both good starting points.
jarek-foksa 16y ago
> A) its not gonna be good anyway I couldn't disagree more. "Artistic talent" is not what makes you a good designer, regular practice and passion are what matters most. Check out this thread from conceptart.org forums: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870 http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870 The guy starts in 2002 drawing stuff like this: http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?s=7c451b5efdec75fb358de1aaeb2cbc4c&attachmentid=92110&d=1171376938 http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?s=7c... or this http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90144&d=1180110576 http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid... And here are some of his artworks after a couple of years of hard work: http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94289&stc=1&d=1171553706 http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?atta... http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=641116&d=1239214231 http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?atta... I'm sure you could achieve the same level of progress in web design or UI design field as long as you are willing to devote enough time for practice.

by jnhnum1 16y ago

duiker101 16y ago

It can be learned, but it's hard, you might be able to use every single future of any graphic tool, but if you(or anyone, me too) lack of that feeling that usually a good designer have from birth, it's really hard to get, For example an icon or a logo, can be just 3 or for lines or a simple canvas, very easy to do, but what is hard to get is the idea, that's what is important that's what i pay for. This is my opinion.

SabrinaDent 16y ago

I'm a web designer by trade. While I think I have a good innate layout and design sense that I've been working since the days of print, I certainly do not believe it can't be learned. If your goal is to produce product, though, you have to consider if there's a long term time/money benefit to learning. I license layouts from Theme Forest and icons Graphic River for clients all the time when budgets are tight and money is an issue. There's no shame in it. It's very efficient and in the right hands, effective. For me the biggest advantage is that they do backend stuff as well, which since that is God's most tedious job, is a real bonus. It is so much easier when you have somewhere to start.

webwright 16y ago

Of course it can be learned. 10,000 hours to mastery of anything is what they say. Substantially less if you want to be passably good at it. Best advice I've ever heard on design is "copy, copy, copy, copy until you don't need to". Themeforest or TemplateMonster are both good starting points.

jarek-foksa 16y ago

> A) its not gonna be good anyway I couldn't disagree more. "Artistic talent" is not what makes you a good designer, regular practice and passion are what matters most. Check out this thread from conceptart.org forums: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870 http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870 The guy starts in 2002 drawing stuff like this: http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?s=7c451b5efdec75fb358de1aaeb2cbc4c&attachmentid=92110&d=1171376938 http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?s=7c... or this http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90144&d=1180110576 http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid... And here are some of his artworks after a couple of years of hard work: http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94289&stc=1&d=1171553706 http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?atta... http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=641116&d=1239214231 http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?atta... I'm sure you could achieve the same level of progress in web design or UI design field as long as you are willing to devote enough time for practice.