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If anything that's just an argument to move most people(other than those strictly necessary for agriculture) from rural towns into dense cities.
by ginko 6y ago
If anything that's just an argument to move most people(other than those strictly necessary for agriculture) from rural towns into dense cities.
- adrianN 6y agoWhere "dense city" is still a pretty small town. A five digit population can easily support a hospital, a school, a train station and other basic necessities of life (e.g. jobs that don't require commuting to the next urban core).
- reader_mode 6y agoThere are unique opportunities in such small communities and qualities that cannot be replicated in denser urban areas. Once my children grow up I could see myself living there. Suggesting that we shouldn't live that way because it nececitaces a car ridiculous.
- ginko 6y agoIn my opinion living on the country side is a luxury. Sure, feel free to live in a small town, but please pay for all the externalities yourself.
- reader_mode 6y agoThose would be minuscule per capita, and are already included in high gas taxes we have around here.
- ginko 6y agoWhat makes you think fuel taxes are already including the cost of carbon capture?
- reader_mode 6y agoBecause they are higher than carbon taxes on industry from what I remember.
- joe_the_user 6y agoThe cost of giant road network connecting a patchwork of exurbs is vast. If the exurbs wind-up being considered a luxury and inhabited by those who can afford, the cost per-person goes up. Even more, if the US gets rid of its extreme wealth/income imbalance, the number who could afford it would go down even further. Essentially, Exurbia is millstone around this country's neck, effectively moving the place palpably to disaster via fire, unhinged ideologies and generally unsustainable infrastructure.
- stallmanite 6y agoHow do you propose to force people to move?
- ginko 6y agoUrbanization is already happening anyways. It could probably be sped up if we get rid of the implicit subsidies of rural living.
- ekianjo 6y agoThat's already happening. You don't need to "move" people. More and more people live in dense cities.
- jjk166 6y agoFarms take up massive areas so farmers can not live in cities. Natural resources like minerals are unlikely to be located close to major population centers, so miners can not live in cities. Between population centers there must be people maintaining the transportation infrastructure, these can not live in cities. All of these people who can't live in population centers need various services, the providers of which also can't live in cities. The people in rural areas are overwhelmingly there because they need to be. People want to live in urban areas, it's a real problem that people leave rural areas despite the need for their services, and thus the rural communities are no longer capable of providing good quality of life, leading to even more people leaving until only those who can't escape remain. If the communities providing resources to the cities collapse, what happens to the cities?