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I am sure the dead will value their freedom.

by Klinky 6y ago

cwhiz 6y ago
A common defense of authoritarianism. It's for your benefit, silly! We know the risks of Covid. We know who the at-risk population is. Adults can make their own decisions. If you don't think free people deserve their freedom, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  These are generally the same people that call Trump a fascist/say democracy is dead. Paternalism and authoritarianism is alive and well on the left too. And it's generally worse cause they act like they have the certainty of science, academia, etc. to justify however they abuse power. See how that played out in the Progressive era...eugenics, central planning, corporations...the list goes on.
- matwood 6y ago
  The common question is where do your freedoms end and mine begin? Are you free to drive drunk and put others at risk? What about smoking in restaurants? COVID appears to be fairly contagious, and spreadable by asymptomatic people. If you are out being 'free' while asymptomatic and giving X number of people COVID, you are infringing on their freedoms. It's not as simple as you wanting to be free to make your own choices, when your choices can impact someone else's freedom.
  - cwhiz 6y ago
    If you feel that you are in a risk pool where covid could be deadly to you, then you should stay home. That is a true statement whether there is a lockdown, or not.
    - Klinky 6y ago
      Doesn't answer the drunk driving or smoking issue. "Your Freedoms" always have limits. Without a strong safety net and worker protection, some at risk people are being forced outside to survive. Sweden at least has a strong safety net, some would even consider it relatively socialist. That can't be said for everywhere.
- mcguire 6y ago
  Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.
  - cwhiz 6y ago
    You can choose to, or to not, go outside or into a restaurant. If you feel that your life is at risk due to covid then you should choose to not. Whether or not I go into a restaurant is of no consequence to you.
ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
A lot of people have sacrificed their life for freedom, especially in America. It’s literally one of our few uniting values

I am sure the dead will value their freedom.

by Klinky 6y ago

I am sure the dead will value their freedom.

A common defense of authoritarianism. It's for your benefit, silly! We know the risks of Covid. We know who the at-risk population is. Adults can make their own decisions. If you don't think free people deserve their freedom, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
These are generally the same people that call Trump a fascist/say democracy is dead. Paternalism and authoritarianism is alive and well on the left too. And it's generally worse cause they act like they have the certainty of science, academia, etc. to justify however they abuse power. See how that played out in the Progressive era...eugenics, central planning, corporations...the list goes on.
matwood 6y ago
The common question is where do your freedoms end and mine begin? Are you free to drive drunk and put others at risk? What about smoking in restaurants? COVID appears to be fairly contagious, and spreadable by asymptomatic people. If you are out being 'free' while asymptomatic and giving X number of people COVID, you are infringing on their freedoms. It's not as simple as you wanting to be free to make your own choices, when your choices can impact someone else's freedom.
- cwhiz 6y ago
  If you feel that you are in a risk pool where covid could be deadly to you, then you should stay home. That is a true statement whether there is a lockdown, or not.
  - Klinky 6y ago
    Doesn't answer the drunk driving or smoking issue. "Your Freedoms" always have limits. Without a strong safety net and worker protection, some at risk people are being forced outside to survive. Sweden at least has a strong safety net, some would even consider it relatively socialist. That can't be said for everywhere.
mcguire 6y ago
Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.
- cwhiz 6y ago
  You can choose to, or to not, go outside or into a restaurant. If you feel that your life is at risk due to covid then you should choose to not. Whether or not I go into a restaurant is of no consequence to you.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago

A lot of people have sacrificed their life for freedom, especially in America. It’s literally one of our few uniting values