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> tied to the device and not let leak out there are laws against facial recognition (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-becomes-the-first-city-to-ban-t

by ncr100 6y ago

> tied to the device and not let leak out there are laws against facial recognition (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-becomes-the-first-city-to-ban-the-use-of-facial-recognition-technology-by-government-agencies-and-private-entities-in-public-spaces/ar-BB18SOjY https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-becomes-the-first...) how is palm recognition different from facial, aside from scanner proximity?

hypersoar 6y ago
Off the top of my head: cameras are, and will remain, a lot more common than palm scanners.
radiorental 6y ago
To play devils advocate I guess you could argue that Facial Recognition is passive. Finger print, and by extension palm, requires proactive participation of the user. I.e. you choose to hand over your palm to be read, you do not make the same choice in Facial Recognition scenarios.
- teachrdan 6y ago
  What if the palm recognition is done without the person's knowledge via camera? Fingerprinting can already be done at a distance. Here's a story about it below from back in 2011. What if the technology is built into door handles or other objects that require active use? As soon as there is an incentive to scan people's palms, technology will be implemented or created to do so. However, Amazon has no incentive to let the public know if there's evidence of multiple people with indistinguishable palms, the rate of false identifications, or other shortcomings of the software. https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/01/14/197589/fingerprints-go-the-distance/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/01/14/197589/fingerpri...
- noodlesUK 6y ago
  This is not true at all. One of the reasons fingerprints and DNA are so valuable is that they are left behind by people as they go about their business, and you can go in retrospectively without their knowledge and collect their biometrics.

by ncr100 6y ago

hypersoar 6y ago

Off the top of my head: cameras are, and will remain, a lot more common than palm scanners.

radiorental 6y ago

To play devils advocate I guess you could argue that Facial Recognition is passive. Finger print, and by extension palm, requires proactive participation of the user. I.e. you choose to hand over your palm to be read, you do not make the same choice in Facial Recognition scenarios.

teachrdan 6y ago
What if the palm recognition is done without the person's knowledge via camera? Fingerprinting can already be done at a distance. Here's a story about it below from back in 2011. What if the technology is built into door handles or other objects that require active use? As soon as there is an incentive to scan people's palms, technology will be implemented or created to do so. However, Amazon has no incentive to let the public know if there's evidence of multiple people with indistinguishable palms, the rate of false identifications, or other shortcomings of the software. https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/01/14/197589/fingerprints-go-the-distance/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/01/14/197589/fingerpri...
noodlesUK 6y ago
This is not true at all. One of the reasons fingerprints and DNA are so valuable is that they are left behind by people as they go about their business, and you can go in retrospectively without their knowledge and collect their biometrics.