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On the other hand he called for a foreign country to hack into his opponents' email and release all of it. So, he obviously doesn't value privacy that much

by yread 6y ago

smitty1e 6y ago
Tasteless joke, or substantive call for a privacy invasion? One must to keep in mind that cognitive bias has us parsing those we dislike quite literally, while giving those we fancy a pass. And that's true in all 57 states.
- mariusor 6y ago
  In my opinion people in high visibility, high power jobs are not allowed to make tasteless jokes towards the people they have power over. It avoids such misunderstandings.
  - smitty1e 6y ago
    The question moves to whether such crudities win or lose elections. A substantial chunk of voters appear disdainful of meticulously courteous but otherwise objectionable leaders. I didn't care for Bush43's speeches, but Trump makes W seem a rhetorical genius.
    - raxxorrax 6y ago
      Especially on the topic of privacy, meticulously courteous didn't work, people just lied to your face. So this is at least another tactic. Doesn't seem like much though.
      - smitty1e 6y ago
        One surmises that any legitimate smoking guns would have long since been whistle-blown. Past law and facts, it all appears innuendo.
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- ModernMech 6y ago
  > Tasteless joke, or substantive call for a privacy invasion? He was pressed by a reporter after that and he doubled and tripled down on what he said. That's not really what someone who was joking would do.
  - digitaltrees 6y ago
    Yes Katie Turr literally asked if he was joking and later said she was shocked but wanted to confirm. It’s amazing how people try to reposition history and how effective it is when they do it because the facts are clear and on video.
- digitaltrees 6y ago
  It wasn’t a joke because then it happened and he moved to capitalize on it. You should know that at this point so why are you pushing an inaccurate revision to history?

On the other hand he called for a foreign country to hack into his opponents' email and release all of it. So, he obviously doesn't value privacy that much

by yread 6y ago

On the other hand he called for a foreign country to hack into his opponents' email and release all of it. So, he obviously doesn't value privacy that much

smitty1e 6y ago

Tasteless joke, or substantive call for a privacy invasion? One must to keep in mind that cognitive bias has us parsing those we dislike quite literally, while giving those we fancy a pass. And that's true in all 57 states.

mariusor 6y ago
In my opinion people in high visibility, high power jobs are not allowed to make tasteless jokes towards the people they have power over. It avoids such misunderstandings.
- smitty1e 6y ago
  The question moves to whether such crudities win or lose elections. A substantial chunk of voters appear disdainful of meticulously courteous but otherwise objectionable leaders. I didn't care for Bush43's speeches, but Trump makes W seem a rhetorical genius.
  - raxxorrax 6y ago
    Especially on the topic of privacy, meticulously courteous didn't work, people just lied to your face. So this is at least another tactic. Doesn't seem like much though.
    - smitty1e 6y ago
      One surmises that any legitimate smoking guns would have long since been whistle-blown. Past law and facts, it all appears innuendo.
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ModernMech 6y ago
> Tasteless joke, or substantive call for a privacy invasion? He was pressed by a reporter after that and he doubled and tripled down on what he said. That's not really what someone who was joking would do.
- digitaltrees 6y ago
  Yes Katie Turr literally asked if he was joking and later said she was shocked but wanted to confirm. It’s amazing how people try to reposition history and how effective it is when they do it because the facts are clear and on video.
digitaltrees 6y ago
It wasn’t a joke because then it happened and he moved to capitalize on it. You should know that at this point so why are you pushing an inaccurate revision to history?