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Meanwhile in Germany people get 14months paid leave. Where neither parent can take more than 12.
by straw11 6y ago
Meanwhile in Germany people get 14months paid leave. Where neither parent can take more than 12.
- fileeditview 6y agoIt's important to note here that paid means 67% of you net salary but only up to 1800€. While this is nice, this is not enough to just live off for most people (that don't have a lot of savings).
- lm28469 6y ago> this is not enough to just live off for most people I don't think many people can pull the "the state doesn't provide enough to have kids" card in Germany to be honest. At some point people have to understand that yes, having a kid means you will have less money at the end of the month and will most likely result in personal sacrifices.
- fileeditview 6y agoI never said that.. I was just stating the facts because the parent comment made it sound like you get 12 months for free.
- buzzerbetrayed 6y agoBefore people think that this policy is all roses, a close friend of mine is the CEO of a multi billion dollar international business. They don’t hire anyone from France because the French government makes it so difficult to fire a bad hire. Maybe you could argue that the French are better off without them, but people love working for them and they have great pay and benefits. I’m sure there are a number of companies that France and Germany miss out on due to policies like these. Companies simply can’t always pay people to not work for 6 months to a year, so they’ll go somewhere where they don’t have to.
- sveme 6y agoPeople aren‘t paid by companies during parental leave, so I call bullshit here. And hiring laws aren‘t determined by the employee‘s nationality.
- gnicholas 6y ago> And hiring laws aren‘t determined by the employee‘s nationality. Hiring laws aren't, but firing laws are. When I worked as a corporate lawyer, we had lawyers who specialized in knowing the employment laws in various countries and advising companies on the process for exiting, the cost for doing so, etc. I'd also disagree that people aren't paid by companies during parental leave. They are often topped-up by companies. This was the case at the law firm where I worked, and at the R1 university my wife works for. I'm sure it is also the case at FAANG, which have generous corporate leave policies.
- imtringued 6y agoI'm not going to pretend that parental leave doesn't have its downsides. Of course it also results in companies hiring more people to account for the loss of productivity. It isn't cheap, even if the government is footing the bill.
- sveme 6y agoFiring laws are not dependent on nationality, but the location of the employer. If you are based in France, you have to adhere to French laws, simple as that. If you hire a French in the UK, the UK rules apply. But I guess that's clear to everyone, I was just taking issue with GP's statement that his friend does not hire the French. He probably does not hire in France.
- car 6y agoCEO of a multi billion dollar international business Companies simply can’t always pay people to not work for 6 months to a year, so they’ll go somewhere where they don’t have to. Why ‘simply can’t’ a ‘multi billion dollar international business’ offer paid parental leave, if so required by law? This does not make any sense, large international corporations will do business wherever they can profitably.
- tpm 6y agoIn Slovakia, mother gets up to 3 years of paid leave (the money is not huge but it's something). Father gets something too, not sure how long.