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think of the cost savings on massages and yoga classes and espresso machines!

toomuchtodo 6y ago
I chuckled, but more importantly, think of the comp savings when you hire from outside the Bay Area (if Google can get a decent remote hiring process in place, much smaller companies have but TBD if Google has the fortitude to). Lots of folks who otherwise couldn’t work for Google now can, and will get paid more than their market probably allowed for previously.
- dehrmann 6y ago
  > think of the comp savings when you hire from outside the Bay Area Just considering the US, I wonder how many engineers are talented enough to work for Google, are interested in working for Google, and aren't already there, even in a satellite office? I'm sure there are some, but between a variety of office locations and good pay, I'm not convinced there's a large untapped pool of rural tech talent.
  - toomuchtodo 6y ago
    You might be right, but now that Google is more accepting of the concept the cost is very low (at their scale) for them to make the attempt.
  - xboxnolifes 6y ago
    I'm sure there's plenty, even only considering how many new graduates they hire every year and then relocate.
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  - scarface74 6y ago
    Am I incorrect in assuming that you don’t have to be “talented” to be hired at Google just masochistic enough to “grind leetCode”?
- scarface74 6y ago
  As far as I can tell, and I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, it seems like there are a lot of positions in AWS’s consultancy arm that were always hiring in “virtual locations”. My position was advertised as one.
  - toomuchtodo 6y ago
    Never heard of that arrangement. Every AWS role an AWS recruiter ran past me required relo to Seattle or NYC.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      https://www.amazon.jobs/en/location/virtual-locations https://www.amazon.jobs/en/location/virtual-locations I work at a “virtual location”. It was in the job description.
      - toomuchtodo 6y ago
        This is helpful, thanks for sharing. Hope you’re enjoying the new role.
johnghanks 6y ago
I have personally saved _thousands_ of dollars in addition to hours of my life not having to commute. There's an element of seriousness in your sarcastic comment for more than just companies.
- chippy 6y ago
  The hours of your life saved not commuting will instead be used to work. Think of the savings, seriously, not even sarcasm.
  - hprotagonist 6y ago
    your effective hourly rate just dropped, yep.
    - johnghanks 6y ago
      Y'all need to log off at 8 hours worked. I used to work 8:30 - 4:30 (read: get up at 7, shower, bus at 8, in work at 8:30). Now I work 7 - 3 most days (literally roll out of bed and sit down at my desk). If I'm tired, I'll snooze my alarm for an hour and work 8 - 4. My life is significantly better working from home.
  - Polylactic_acid 6y ago
    How? I start and finish at exactly the same time as in office and after hours I am not contactable other than a phone call which has never happened.
  - TylerE 6y ago
    On if you let yourself be taken advantage of.
- dalyons 6y ago
  And I have spent many thousands more renting more space for my WFH office (upgrading our 1bdr) that normally my work would be paying for

I chuckled, but more importantly, think of the comp savings when you hire from outside the Bay Area (if Google can get a decent remote hiring process in place, much smaller companies have but TBD if Google has the fortitude to). Lots of folks who otherwise couldn’t work for Google now can, and will get paid more than their market probably allowed for previously.

dehrmann 6y ago
> think of the comp savings when you hire from outside the Bay Area Just considering the US, I wonder how many engineers are talented enough to work for Google, are interested in working for Google, and aren't already there, even in a satellite office? I'm sure there are some, but between a variety of office locations and good pay, I'm not convinced there's a large untapped pool of rural tech talent.
- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  You might be right, but now that Google is more accepting of the concept the cost is very low (at their scale) for them to make the attempt.
- xboxnolifes 6y ago
  I'm sure there's plenty, even only considering how many new graduates they hire every year and then relocate.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- scarface74 6y ago
  Am I incorrect in assuming that you don’t have to be “talented” to be hired at Google just masochistic enough to “grind leetCode”?
scarface74 6y ago
As far as I can tell, and I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, it seems like there are a lot of positions in AWS’s consultancy arm that were always hiring in “virtual locations”. My position was advertised as one.
- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  Never heard of that arrangement. Every AWS role an AWS recruiter ran past me required relo to Seattle or NYC.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    https://www.amazon.jobs/en/location/virtual-locations https://www.amazon.jobs/en/location/virtual-locations I work at a “virtual location”. It was in the job description.
    - toomuchtodo 6y ago
      This is helpful, thanks for sharing. Hope you’re enjoying the new role.

johnghanks 6y ago

I have personally saved _thousands_ of dollars in addition to hours of my life not having to commute. There's an element of seriousness in your sarcastic comment for more than just companies.

chippy 6y ago
The hours of your life saved not commuting will instead be used to work. Think of the savings, seriously, not even sarcasm.
- hprotagonist 6y ago
  your effective hourly rate just dropped, yep.
  - johnghanks 6y ago
    Y'all need to log off at 8 hours worked. I used to work 8:30 - 4:30 (read: get up at 7, shower, bus at 8, in work at 8:30). Now I work 7 - 3 most days (literally roll out of bed and sit down at my desk). If I'm tired, I'll snooze my alarm for an hour and work 8 - 4. My life is significantly better working from home.
- Polylactic_acid 6y ago
  How? I start and finish at exactly the same time as in office and after hours I am not contactable other than a phone call which has never happened.
- TylerE 6y ago
  On if you let yourself be taken advantage of.
dalyons 6y ago
And I have spent many thousands more renting more space for my WFH office (upgrading our 1bdr) that normally my work would be paying for