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Of course you can transfer data through a gravitational wave. I had a long series of conversations about this with Rai Weiss (of LIGO fame) back in the mid 1980
by yodon 6y ago
Of course you can transfer data through a gravitational wave. I had a long series of conversations about this with Rai Weiss (of LIGO fame) back in the mid 1980's when I was an undergrad with a crazy idea to turn a cyclotron or synchrotron accelerator into a high frequency gravitational wave generator. The question isn't whether a wave can carry information, it's how you can modulate the carrier wave when the carrier wave is a gravitational wave generally requiring a pair of closely orbiting black holes to produce.
I learned a ton of math and physics in the process of asking whether you could turn CERN or the superconducting supercollider into a gravitational wave generator, the most interesting being that conventional laboratory proposals for rotating bar gravitational wave generators and high frequency accelerator based gravitational wave generators are both in the end limited by the same quantity, the physical strength of materials. If you try to spin a bar faster than the point where its tip velocity is moving at roughly the speed of sound in the material, the bar will be ripped apart because the centrifugal force exceeds the tensile strength of the material, and if you try to increase the number of electrons or protons too high in the bundle being accelerated in your accelerator, you are similarly ultimately limited by the physical strength of the magnets responsible for bending the path of the particles into a circle.
The other interesting observation is that the rotating bar obviously has a much higher mass (technically quadrature moment) than you can get circulating in an accelerator, but the angular velocity of the accelerator is so much higher and the exponent on the angular velocity term in the gravitational wave strain calculation is so high (fifth power? I forget, it's been many years) that the magnitudes of the strain producable in a laboratory setting by a rotating bar and by an accelerator are actually very close (and both, unfortunately, are too small to be of interest).
When I went to grad school, my explicit interest was to build a tiny detector to look for high frequency gravitational waves on the grounds that if you wanted to communicate over Inter stellar or larger distances high frequency gravity waves were the best choice for avoiding the dispersion, scattering, and noise background that makes the the E/M spectrum a hard place to talk on long distances (essentially a variant on the SETI "watering hole" frequency choice but pushed into a different medium). I never had a design for a generator, but the idea was to build a table-top size Weber bar or laser interferometer tuned for the kind of high frequency waves you'd want to use for a communication system, and see if anybody happened to be talking on those channels.
- echelon 6y agoThis is a fascinating anecdote and hypothesis. Do you have a blog?
- yardelina 6y agoI think I found something trying to communicate. I surmised it was intelligent from the pattern. It appeared to be sending a tone, with pauses between each note. I tried to replicate the same frequency back through my interferometer. I could continue to detect that the same pattern persisted but it never seemed to change. It would only fade in and out of my detection. I eventually was able to record the 20hz pulses on a piece of paper. There was no discernible pattern in between the notes, but the overall expression would repeat itself.
- namanyayg 6y agoI've been waiting for gravity wave communications since I learnt we had detected them; but of course it's gonna be too hard for us to quickly change either amplitude or frequency. Would it be easier to make a receiver though? The series Three Body Problems goes into many similar points; and the solution described there to the problem of material tensile strength is to use a new type of material, where the primary intermolecular force is strong nuclear force rather than our conventional ones. Using this material; one could construct a long bars capable of gravity wave transmission and reception. I am excitedly optimistic about humanity finding intelligent extrasolar signals on the gravity wave spectrum.
- xornox 6y agoWhat are benefits of gravity wave communication?
- sterlind 6y agoI think it wouldn't be slowed, blocked or dissipated by matter, other than interference with other gravitational waves or time dilation from passing through curved space. I'm not sure what benefit it'd have over neutrinos, though, since those share those properties.