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Emacs will never be a GUI-only editor, it was designed for a terminal and that is still a use case that many people take advantage of. Don't worry though - if

Emacs will never be a GUI-only editor, it was designed for a terminal and that is still a use case that many people take advantage of. Don't worry though - if you don't like Emacs you can use any of a number of other editors.

efficax 6y ago
What can you not do with a grid of characters exactly?
- FandangoRanger 6y ago
  I think we're seeing a culture clash between people who come from a computing background where the terminal was either not used at all, or was a second class citizen, and people who come from a background where a terminal is the main way to interact with the system and the GUI is relegated to mostly showing terminals and doing the GUI-oriented tasks that can't be easily accomplished in the terminal, like pixel-image editing and drawing.
- mrob 6y ago
  Edit natural language documents without wasting about 1/4 of your screen width on useless column alignment information.
- im3w1l 6y ago
  Nicely formatted math. Gui designers. Diagrams. And personally I find tabs is the most efficient design for switching between files.
  - BeetleB 6y ago
    > Nicely formatted math. Can you elaborate? With a keystroke, it renders a LaTeX formula inline.
    - im3w1l 6y ago
      Oh nice! I guess it's less limited than I thought!
    - DoctorOetker 6y ago
      this could sway me, as a novice, whats the mininum amount of steps (from necessary packages to install to actual inline math output o screen) to demonstrate this?
      - BeetleB 6y ago
        First, the proper way would be to use the appropriate mode for LaTeX (auctex). It has a keybinding. I don't use that mode, though, do I can't tell you how to set it up. I use org-mode, which lets you embed LaTeX formulae. I use this often, but surprisingly am not seeing anything in my Emacs config for this, so it may work out of the box. You do need some packages installed on your machine (dvipng, latex, etc). I already had them installed, so for me it was a simple matter of the keybinding: C-c C-x C-l Details from the manual: https://orgmode.org/manual/Previewing-LaTeX-fragments.html https://orgmode.org/manual/Previewing-LaTeX-fragments.html Perhaps a friendlier guide: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-preview.html https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-preview.htm... If you're not familiar with org-mode, it is highly recommended. Its learning curve is quite shallow. I'm sure there are tutorials out there, but for me the Google Tech Talk was enough to get me started and convince me I should use it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJTwQvgfgMM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJTwQvgfgMM Ever since I encountered org mode, I author everything with it: LaTeX, HTML, DOC files, etc.
        DoctorOetker 6y ago
        thanks, that worked, I was down the auctex rabbit hole, and got stuck on a 'cannot load file... cdlatex' or some such... C-c C-x C-l worked out of box! Weird, once I have C-cxl'ed a fragment to rendered latex, and the C-cc'ed back to monospace, I am no longer able to insert superscript and subscript symbols, and it complains about cdlatex-superscript or cdlatex-sub-superscript...

efficax 6y ago

What can you not do with a grid of characters exactly?

FandangoRanger 6y ago
I think we're seeing a culture clash between people who come from a computing background where the terminal was either not used at all, or was a second class citizen, and people who come from a background where a terminal is the main way to interact with the system and the GUI is relegated to mostly showing terminals and doing the GUI-oriented tasks that can't be easily accomplished in the terminal, like pixel-image editing and drawing.
mrob 6y ago
Edit natural language documents without wasting about 1/4 of your screen width on useless column alignment information.
im3w1l 6y ago
Nicely formatted math. Gui designers. Diagrams. And personally I find tabs is the most efficient design for switching between files.
- BeetleB 6y ago
  > Nicely formatted math. Can you elaborate? With a keystroke, it renders a LaTeX formula inline.
  - im3w1l 6y ago
    Oh nice! I guess it's less limited than I thought!
  - DoctorOetker 6y ago
    this could sway me, as a novice, whats the mininum amount of steps (from necessary packages to install to actual inline math output o screen) to demonstrate this?
    - BeetleB 6y ago
      First, the proper way would be to use the appropriate mode for LaTeX (auctex). It has a keybinding. I don't use that mode, though, do I can't tell you how to set it up. I use org-mode, which lets you embed LaTeX formulae. I use this often, but surprisingly am not seeing anything in my Emacs config for this, so it may work out of the box. You do need some packages installed on your machine (dvipng, latex, etc). I already had them installed, so for me it was a simple matter of the keybinding: C-c C-x C-l Details from the manual: https://orgmode.org/manual/Previewing-LaTeX-fragments.html https://orgmode.org/manual/Previewing-LaTeX-fragments.html Perhaps a friendlier guide: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-preview.html https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-preview.htm... If you're not familiar with org-mode, it is highly recommended. Its learning curve is quite shallow. I'm sure there are tutorials out there, but for me the Google Tech Talk was enough to get me started and convince me I should use it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJTwQvgfgMM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJTwQvgfgMM Ever since I encountered org mode, I author everything with it: LaTeX, HTML, DOC files, etc.
      - DoctorOetker 6y ago
        thanks, that worked, I was down the auctex rabbit hole, and got stuck on a 'cannot load file... cdlatex' or some such... C-c C-x C-l worked out of box! Weird, once I have C-cxl'ed a fragment to rendered latex, and the C-cc'ed back to monospace, I am no longer able to insert superscript and subscript symbols, and it complains about cdlatex-superscript or cdlatex-sub-superscript...