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The current ruling party of Taiwan, the DPP, disagrees with the One China Policy. They see Taiwan as a soveriegn nation whose territory consists solely of Taiwa

The current ruling party of Taiwan, the DPP, disagrees with the One China Policy. They see Taiwan as a soveriegn nation whose territory consists solely of Taiwan and surrouding islands. Although there isn't an international agreement on this topic, the DPP sees it this way and they control the executive and legislature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Progressive_Party#Policies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Progressive_Party#P...

FooBarWidget 6y ago
That is what I mean by "forces seeking to move away from the de jure reality". But the fact is, the DPP hasn't officially made this move. Not yet at least. Anyway, my point is that the person I replied to, said that Taiwan recognizes Beijing. I assert that that's officially not the case. I know, de facto situation is different, but in international relations, and when it comes to international law, the de jure reality matters a lot. Official UN procedures follow the de jure reality, not the de facto one. And this latter is one of the reason why China behaves like a "grammar nazi" on these matters. They have to, if they want to keep the current de jure reality. It's like a company sending tons of cease and desist letters to all people who produce fan content: it's not necessarily because they want to upset fans, but it's because if they fail to enforce, then they lose the trademark.
- caycep 6y ago
  is part of this due to all the current unofficial policy of "deliberate ambiguity"? If the DPP does officially make a move to state that ROC is Taiwan and a sovereign entity, would that be one condition that might prompt a PLA invasion?
  - FooBarWidget 6y ago
    Yes. PRC has a couple of diplomatic red lines, which have been consistent since 1949, and Taiwanese independence is one of them. It seems that otherwise, unless the US militarily supports Taiwan, the PRC doesn't care whether Taiwan is de facto independent as long as they don't declare so.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    Chen Shuibian has proclaimed independence like 10 times in a row in his term. Nothing much happened.

FooBarWidget 6y ago

That is what I mean by "forces seeking to move away from the de jure reality". But the fact is, the DPP hasn't officially made this move. Not yet at least. Anyway, my point is that the person I replied to, said that Taiwan recognizes Beijing. I assert that that's officially not the case. I know, de facto situation is different, but in international relations, and when it comes to international law, the de jure reality matters a lot. Official UN procedures follow the de jure reality, not the de facto one. And this latter is one of the reason why China behaves like a "grammar nazi" on these matters. They have to, if they want to keep the current de jure reality. It's like a company sending tons of cease and desist letters to all people who produce fan content: it's not necessarily because they want to upset fans, but it's because if they fail to enforce, then they lose the trademark.

caycep 6y ago
is part of this due to all the current unofficial policy of "deliberate ambiguity"? If the DPP does officially make a move to state that ROC is Taiwan and a sovereign entity, would that be one condition that might prompt a PLA invasion?
- FooBarWidget 6y ago
  Yes. PRC has a couple of diplomatic red lines, which have been consistent since 1949, and Taiwanese independence is one of them. It seems that otherwise, unless the US militarily supports Taiwan, the PRC doesn't care whether Taiwan is de facto independent as long as they don't declare so.
- baybal2 6y ago
  Chen Shuibian has proclaimed independence like 10 times in a row in his term. Nothing much happened.