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On a similar note, I used to not smoke anything but gladly partake in a hookah pipe while out, I liked the different flavors and assumed the “fog” was benign.

On a similar note, I used to not smoke anything but gladly partake in a hookah pipe while out, I liked the different flavors and assumed the “fog” was benign. I stopped AS SOON AS I heard about how much worse hookah was. I had no clue and am completely appalled at the lack of warnings. I’ve met many other people that say the same thing. I still don't smoke anything, and also cut hookah out.

paulcole 6y ago
What did you think a hookah was?
- Aeolun 6y ago
  A more healthy form of smoking, clearly. I was under the same impression until this message.
- vmception 6y ago
  Flavored relatively benign smoke that makes you feel light headed that I did once every blue moon, until I did it more often with better connected party friends Even with knowing of a tobacco and nicotine component I thought the frequency of my own use once a quarter made up for it But once I found out it was way worse than cigarettes and way unfiltered, I stopped accepting and stopped being in circumstances where it was prevalent I didn’t have any dependence so that was easy, just a reversion to a mean for me It was odd that American cities banished indoor smokers to Mars but indoor hookah was A-OK, no disclaimers on the things served to you, no disclosures, servers not required to say anything Odd. I like personal responsibility as much as the next person so I stopped as soon as I found out
geitir 6y ago
Modern hookah is soaked in glycerin which produces the majority of the vapor, while the tobacco is ideally vaporized instead of combusted as well (although usually it's a combination of burning and vaporization). So if done properly arguably better than a cig. The real issue with hookah is the chemicals and co2 released from the coals imo.
- briandear 6y ago
  The CO2? What’s the issue with that? CO2 isn’t a toxin.
  - gerbler 6y ago
    I believe the risk is from carbon monoxide (CO) due to incomplete combustion. Not sure what the best summary of this topic is but here's a paper that provides an example: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ccr3.2173 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ccr3.2173
- nix23 6y ago
  >and co2 released from the coals imo The co (mono) is the problem and the fine coal particles which are NOT filtered by water, the water just cools down the smoke and that lets you breath the smoke even faster and deeper into your lungs.
- throw_away 6y ago
  I didn't know about the glycerin (the same substance used in e-cigs). This makes me think even more that the e-cigarette industry did a huge marketing fail in not calling them e-hookahs.
larrywright 6y ago
A number of years ago there was a hookah bar that opened up in town (I live in a small-ish college town). There was an article in the local paper about the emerging popularity of these establishments. It included a quote from one of the frequent patrons talking about how he loved it because it was so safe, that you were just inhaling the “flavor” without any of the harmful chemicals you’d get from smoking[1]. I was astonished at the time, but I guess the belief is more common than I was aware. [1]https://www.pantagraph.com/business/students-plan-for-hookah-bar-no-pipe-dream/article_9219bca8-d85a-5968-a563-f26d68d1dc61.html https://www.pantagraph.com/business/students-plan-for-hookah...

paulcole 6y ago

What did you think a hookah was?

Aeolun 6y ago
A more healthy form of smoking, clearly. I was under the same impression until this message.
vmception 6y ago
Flavored relatively benign smoke that makes you feel light headed that I did once every blue moon, until I did it more often with better connected party friends Even with knowing of a tobacco and nicotine component I thought the frequency of my own use once a quarter made up for it But once I found out it was way worse than cigarettes and way unfiltered, I stopped accepting and stopped being in circumstances where it was prevalent I didn’t have any dependence so that was easy, just a reversion to a mean for me It was odd that American cities banished indoor smokers to Mars but indoor hookah was A-OK, no disclaimers on the things served to you, no disclosures, servers not required to say anything Odd. I like personal responsibility as much as the next person so I stopped as soon as I found out

geitir 6y ago

Modern hookah is soaked in glycerin which produces the majority of the vapor, while the tobacco is ideally vaporized instead of combusted as well (although usually it's a combination of burning and vaporization). So if done properly arguably better than a cig. The real issue with hookah is the chemicals and co2 released from the coals imo.

briandear 6y ago
The CO2? What’s the issue with that? CO2 isn’t a toxin.
- gerbler 6y ago
  I believe the risk is from carbon monoxide (CO) due to incomplete combustion. Not sure what the best summary of this topic is but here's a paper that provides an example: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ccr3.2173 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ccr3.2173
nix23 6y ago
>and co2 released from the coals imo The co (mono) is the problem and the fine coal particles which are NOT filtered by water, the water just cools down the smoke and that lets you breath the smoke even faster and deeper into your lungs.
throw_away 6y ago
I didn't know about the glycerin (the same substance used in e-cigs). This makes me think even more that the e-cigarette industry did a huge marketing fail in not calling them e-hookahs.

larrywright 6y ago

A number of years ago there was a hookah bar that opened up in town (I live in a small-ish college town). There was an article in the local paper about the emerging popularity of these establishments. It included a quote from one of the frequent patrons talking about how he loved it because it was so safe, that you were just inhaling the “flavor” without any of the harmful chemicals you’d get from smoking[1]. I was astonished at the time, but I guess the belief is more common than I was aware. [1]https://www.pantagraph.com/business/students-plan-for-hookah-bar-no-pipe-dream/article_9219bca8-d85a-5968-a563-f26d68d1dc61.html https://www.pantagraph.com/business/students-plan-for-hookah...