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Or their free email. If you use them, ask yourself, if they locked you out, what data would you lose? And how many accounts at other services are going to give
by _jal 6y ago
Or their free email.
If you use them, ask yourself, if they locked you out, what data would you lose? And how many accounts at other services are going to give you grief because you can't reply from that address now?
- ekanes 6y agoIf someone can't run their own mail system, what do you recommend? Are there better options?
- wazanator 6y agoI've enjoyed using Proton Mail https://protonmail.com/pricing https://protonmail.com/pricing
- jes 6y agoSame. I have been using it for a year now (I know, I'm a Late Adopter) and it's been completely smooth. No complaints.
- fanf2 6y agohttps://fastmail.com https://fastmail.com
- MacsHeadroom 6y agoIf you have a domain name you can forward *@yourdomain.tld to a free mail service and mark the mail service as an authorized sender. I have a Gmail inbox that sends and receives from dozens of addresses on 4 different domains. If Google locked me out, I could just update the forwarding rule on my domain to go to a different email.
- ekanes 6y agoThank you SO MUCH. I'll do this.
- el_dev_hell 6y agoI managed to get myself temporarily locked out of a 10+ year old gmail account 2 months ago. I managed to get it back easily (finding my old phone sim and resetting). But it was a traumatic experience. I signed up for Fastmail that day and did a complete download of all data. I'm still in the migration phase (which is a pain), but I'm aiming to go completely gmail free for the rest of my life. I implore anyone reading this: DO NOT USE A FREE EMAIL SERVICE FOR ANYTHING REMOTELY IMPORTANT!
- jethro_tell 6y agoAnother option is to control the domain. That is what I recommend for any account that is used to make money in any way. In the event you have a dispute with your email host, you can simply change the domain MX records. You may lose a few hours or a couple days of email, but your name doesn't disappear out of thin air.
- ryukafalz 6y agoJust make sure you don’t forget to renew the domain.
- smt88 6y agoAnd that your registrar is secure. GoDaddy had a lot of issues with social engineering a few years ago.
- cortesoft 6y agoWhat happens if you have a dispute with your registrar?
- jethro_tell 6y agoThat can happen for sure. You should do as little business with your registrar as possible. No hosting, just a domain and a couple DNS records. Your registrar is unlikely to do any automated patrolling and algorithmically stop doing business with you. Registrars don't have the profit margins to police every domain they own and the tech parse every type of content to decide you should be delisted. If they do decide that you are too distasteful to do business with, it will likely be a person, responding to a complaint of some kind. That is a significantly lower risk than an automated google sweep or say getting your email turned off because your YouTube channel was tagged by a bot.
- Polylactic_acid 6y agoI have been hosting my own email using mailinabox. The tool is so painless I suggest more people should use it. The only ongoing maintenance I have had to manage is rebooting it to apply updates. The whole thing is backed up with a built in backup tool that rsyncs the data to my home server. The only downside is you lose that automatic email filtering thing gmail does.
- colesantiago 6y agoehh, no thanks, not quite keen on emails being sent into the spambox.
- Polylactic_acid 6y agoMailinabox configures everything in the way gmail likes. Unless you start your vps on a tainted IP address it should be no problem. I send to gmail and outlook emails fine.
- 3131s 6y agoDepends on your hosting provider with Outlook still right? I run a mail server on Linode and I had thought that Microsoft was still blocking all their IPs.
- Polylactic_acid 6y agoI'm using vultr for my vps and it has been fine.
- tacLog 6y ago> mailinabox How bad is life without that filter?
- Polylactic_acid 6y agoIts not really then end of the world. It just means I need to unsubscribe from newsletters manually rather than letting google dump them in the trash automatically. I would like to see server side email filtering though since my thunderbird filters are useless when my desktop is off and I check with my phone. I think I largely have a herd immunity from spam since no one sends spam that will automatically be filtered by what 99.99% of users use.
- graton 6y agoWell thanks to using rclone and gmvault (even though it is dead project it still keeps backing up my email) I am hoping it would be very minimal data loss. I also use borg back up every day on my backups so that I keep data for a fairly long time. And I have setup a schedule to do Google Takeout every 90 days. But I would guess less than 1% of people do what I do to ensure they could handle losing access to their Google account.
- endgame 6y agoI was using G Suite on a personal domain, and woke up one morning to discover that google refused to let me IMAP into my account any more. The error message pointed me at a browser verification page which I did multiple times, to no avail, so I moved to a different email provider. Thanks for the final push, Google. I've been meaning to move for years.