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https://vimeo.com/ https://vimeo.com/? Although they seem to market themselves more towards the indie filmmaker market.

wishinghand 6y ago
They have live streaming available now, which is more of a Twitch thing than even a Youtube thing, though YT does offer it.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  Live streaming is more in line with the twitch brand, but youtube's implementation is significantly better, at least on the client side. There's no live rewinding on twitch, or pausing for a minute and then catching back up at 1.25x or 1.5x
  - gputhrowaway630 6y ago
    It's true that you can't pause a stream on Twitch, but Twitch allows you to save clips that are functionally equivalent to rewinding, which isn't available on YouTube. Twitch's UX&I is also much better suited to streaming than YouTube (bigger chat, multiple viewing sizes/configurations, no video suggestions).
    - Dylan16807 6y ago
      I could go through the awkward process of making a clip every time I miss something and want to rewind a few seconds, but once I do that now I've missed even more of the broadcast and there's no way to catch up. Twitch only works comfortably for completely live viewing, watching finished VODs, or watching ongoing VODS with half an hour delay minimum. Clips are a neat feature but they're a sharing feature, not a "help me watch" feature.
rexreed 6y ago
Yes - why don't more people use Vimeo? I know that they have limits on uploads, especially on the free tier, but it's worth paying for because at least they know you're a customer and not a product. For $900 a year you get 7 TB of video and unlimited live streaming. Yes, YouTube is cheaper (free) and brings a large audience. So you have to balance paying for something that's certain or being at the whim of the market maker.
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago
  > why don't more people use Vimeo? I believe it's because YouTube is as much a content-discovery platform as a content-delivery platform. If you only use Vimeo, very few people will discover your videos. I don't know why more people don't upload to both, though. > whim of the market maker As I understand it, Vimeo are also far from perfect in this regard. An interesting anecdote: the recent Michael Moore film, Planet of the Humans, was made freely available on YouTube, but was taken down after a copyright complaint. They moved the video to Vimeo, where it remains. (I can't comment on the legitimacy of the copyright complaint, and this is not an endorsement of the film.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Humans#Release https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Humans#Release

They have live streaming available now, which is more of a Twitch thing than even a Youtube thing, though YT does offer it.

Dylan16807 6y ago
Live streaming is more in line with the twitch brand, but youtube's implementation is significantly better, at least on the client side. There's no live rewinding on twitch, or pausing for a minute and then catching back up at 1.25x or 1.5x
- gputhrowaway630 6y ago
  It's true that you can't pause a stream on Twitch, but Twitch allows you to save clips that are functionally equivalent to rewinding, which isn't available on YouTube. Twitch's UX&I is also much better suited to streaming than YouTube (bigger chat, multiple viewing sizes/configurations, no video suggestions).
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    I could go through the awkward process of making a clip every time I miss something and want to rewind a few seconds, but once I do that now I've missed even more of the broadcast and there's no way to catch up. Twitch only works comfortably for completely live viewing, watching finished VODs, or watching ongoing VODS with half an hour delay minimum. Clips are a neat feature but they're a sharing feature, not a "help me watch" feature.

rexreed 6y ago

Yes - why don't more people use Vimeo? I know that they have limits on uploads, especially on the free tier, but it's worth paying for because at least they know you're a customer and not a product. For $900 a year you get 7 TB of video and unlimited live streaming. Yes, YouTube is cheaper (free) and brings a large audience. So you have to balance paying for something that's certain or being at the whim of the market maker.

MaxBarraclough 6y ago
> why don't more people use Vimeo? I believe it's because YouTube is as much a content-discovery platform as a content-delivery platform. If you only use Vimeo, very few people will discover your videos. I don't know why more people don't upload to both, though. > whim of the market maker As I understand it, Vimeo are also far from perfect in this regard. An interesting anecdote: the recent Michael Moore film, Planet of the Humans, was made freely available on YouTube, but was taken down after a copyright complaint. They moved the video to Vimeo, where it remains. (I can't comment on the legitimacy of the copyright complaint, and this is not an endorsement of the film.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Humans#Release https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Humans#Release