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Is it smart that there is still a pilot in the plane? I mean, it's 2020 and this plane will probably not be built in large numbers for another few years. Are hu

by flexie 6y ago

Is it smart that there is still a pilot in the plane? I mean, it's 2020 and this plane will probably not be built in large numbers for another few years. Are human pilots still better than computers? I would think a plane could be lighter and react and maneuver more rapidly, pull more Gs, if there was no human inside.

GoOnThenDoTell 6y ago
On the other hand, these planes will eventually have 0days A real drone bomber is a cruise missile
lightgreen 6y ago
Computers are unlikely to be able to completely autonomously decide what target to shoot, but remote piloting should not be an issue.
- imtringued 6y ago
  If you let AI autonomously designate targets and kill targets fully then humans are no longer at the top of the food chain. It's easy to dismiss the control problem in civilian environments because humans suffer from that exact same problem and that's why we have the rule of law and law enforcement. But the military works differently. The person, organization or AI in charge of the military also effectively governs all civilians of that nation.
  - lightgreen 6y ago
    Just in case, some form of AI (AI is just a buzzword for a complex algorithm) already identifies and shots targets. For example, Iron Dome is fully autonomous (human operator is not capable of reacting quickly). Although I’m not aware of autonomous systems which shoots something with people onboard. But I disagree the characterization of these systems as “top of the food chain”. This naming would provide food for philosophers, but practically this definition is useless.
crocodiletears 6y ago
"Roper declined to comment on how many prototype aircraft have been flown or which defense contractors manufactured them. He wouldn’t say when or where the first flight occurred. And he refused to divulge any aspect of the aircraft’s design — its mission, whether it was uncrewed or optionally crewed, whether it could fly at hypersonic speeds or if it has stealth characteristics." We don't even know that there was a pilot. All we know is that a jet aircraft was produced in a fairly rapid timeframe.
bsder 6y ago
> Are human pilots still better than computers? For highly fluid, continuously changing environments? Yes. Humans are much more adaptable than computers. That having been said: there is a YouTube video of a test pilot talking to some folks at MIT(?) and saying that the F35 is basically the future of piloting in that you don't "fly" the plane so much as tell the plane "do action X" and the plane figures out how to do it. So, the next generation of planes are going to be even more of this--effectively a human pilot in theatre commanding a drone swarm. > I would think a plane could be lighter and react and maneuver more rapidly, pull more Gs, if there was no human inside. Absolutely. And lots of these will be commanded from a bunker somewhere. The number of these commanded from a pilot in theatre is going to get smaller and smaller.
plazmatic 6y ago
Another clown asking questions which have answers in the fucking article. This place is becoming worse than reddit. Read the articles, dumb dumbs.

by flexie 6y ago

GoOnThenDoTell 6y ago

On the other hand, these planes will eventually have 0days A real drone bomber is a cruise missile

lightgreen 6y ago

Computers are unlikely to be able to completely autonomously decide what target to shoot, but remote piloting should not be an issue.

imtringued 6y ago
If you let AI autonomously designate targets and kill targets fully then humans are no longer at the top of the food chain. It's easy to dismiss the control problem in civilian environments because humans suffer from that exact same problem and that's why we have the rule of law and law enforcement. But the military works differently. The person, organization or AI in charge of the military also effectively governs all civilians of that nation.
- lightgreen 6y ago
  Just in case, some form of AI (AI is just a buzzword for a complex algorithm) already identifies and shots targets. For example, Iron Dome is fully autonomous (human operator is not capable of reacting quickly). Although I’m not aware of autonomous systems which shoots something with people onboard. But I disagree the characterization of these systems as “top of the food chain”. This naming would provide food for philosophers, but practically this definition is useless.

crocodiletears 6y ago

"Roper declined to comment on how many prototype aircraft have been flown or which defense contractors manufactured them. He wouldn’t say when or where the first flight occurred. And he refused to divulge any aspect of the aircraft’s design — its mission, whether it was uncrewed or optionally crewed, whether it could fly at hypersonic speeds or if it has stealth characteristics." We don't even know that there was a pilot. All we know is that a jet aircraft was produced in a fairly rapid timeframe.

bsder 6y ago

> Are human pilots still better than computers? For highly fluid, continuously changing environments? Yes. Humans are much more adaptable than computers. That having been said: there is a YouTube video of a test pilot talking to some folks at MIT(?) and saying that the F35 is basically the future of piloting in that you don't "fly" the plane so much as tell the plane "do action X" and the plane figures out how to do it. So, the next generation of planes are going to be even more of this--effectively a human pilot in theatre commanding a drone swarm. > I would think a plane could be lighter and react and maneuver more rapidly, pull more Gs, if there was no human inside. Absolutely. And lots of these will be commanded from a bunker somewhere. The number of these commanded from a pilot in theatre is going to get smaller and smaller.

plazmatic 6y ago

Another clown asking questions which have answers in the fucking article. This place is becoming worse than reddit. Read the articles, dumb dumbs.