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Now do Spain, Belgium and Sweden.

by christkv 6y ago

zeveb 6y ago
Spain: 212,555 Belgium: 320,007 Sweden: 190,186
- dividedbyzero 6y ago
  Interesting, your numbers are quite different from mine. Where did you get your fatalities data from?
  - zeveb 6y ago
    From https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat... Just the first Google hit — I didn't do any thorough vetting other than it doesn't appear to be propaganda.
dividedbyzero 6y ago
At the deaths/100k population of Spain, the US would have about 215k deaths. At that of Sweden, about 189k. At that of Belgium, about 286k Numbers from https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality, assuming a US population of 328 million.
- lancewiggs 6y ago
  And that of New Zealand: 1,640 Meanwhile our obesity and asthma rates are sky high and we are mostly an urban population. But we have a government that moved fast and well, a single payer health care system, and so on.
slg 6y ago
Belgium and Sweden are much less populated countries than US, Germany, France, and even Canada. I'm not sure their per capita numbers will translate directly. Sweden has been widely criticized for their response and I think they could also fall in the incompetent government group. I don't know enough about Belgium's response to judge it. Spain was the 3rd country really impacted by COVID-19. Their death rates dropped considerably after their huge initial spike. There was an over month long stretch in which they were in the single digits for deaths per day. I don't think it is fair to judge their response based on total deaths the same way we judge countries that were hit later.
- nradov 6y ago
  Sweden's initial response may have been incompetent but they have been down at an average of about 1 death per day for weeks now. So whatever they're doing currently seems to be competent. Level of competence per country is not a constant. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
- jgwil2 6y ago
  Note that Belgium also has one of one of the highest population densities in the world (375/km sq., as opposed to 92 for Spain and 22 for Sweden).
  - nradov 6y ago
    Population densities are largely meaningless at that level. Sweden has a low density only because most of the northern part is wilderness. Most people live in the south, in urban and suburban areas where density is similar to other European countries.

Now do Spain, Belgium and Sweden.

zeveb 6y ago

Spain: 212,555 Belgium: 320,007 Sweden: 190,186

dividedbyzero 6y ago
Interesting, your numbers are quite different from mine. Where did you get your fatalities data from?
- zeveb 6y ago
  From https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat... Just the first Google hit — I didn't do any thorough vetting other than it doesn't appear to be propaganda.

dividedbyzero 6y ago

At the deaths/100k population of Spain, the US would have about 215k deaths. At that of Sweden, about 189k. At that of Belgium, about 286k Numbers from https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality, assuming a US population of 328 million.

lancewiggs 6y ago
And that of New Zealand: 1,640 Meanwhile our obesity and asthma rates are sky high and we are mostly an urban population. But we have a government that moved fast and well, a single payer health care system, and so on.

slg 6y ago

Belgium and Sweden are much less populated countries than US, Germany, France, and even Canada. I'm not sure their per capita numbers will translate directly. Sweden has been widely criticized for their response and I think they could also fall in the incompetent government group. I don't know enough about Belgium's response to judge it. Spain was the 3rd country really impacted by COVID-19. Their death rates dropped considerably after their huge initial spike. There was an over month long stretch in which they were in the single digits for deaths per day. I don't think it is fair to judge their response based on total deaths the same way we judge countries that were hit later.

nradov 6y ago
Sweden's initial response may have been incompetent but they have been down at an average of about 1 death per day for weeks now. So whatever they're doing currently seems to be competent. Level of competence per country is not a constant. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
jgwil2 6y ago
Note that Belgium also has one of one of the highest population densities in the world (375/km sq., as opposed to 92 for Spain and 22 for Sweden).
- nradov 6y ago
  Population densities are largely meaningless at that level. Sweden has a low density only because most of the northern part is wilderness. Most people live in the south, in urban and suburban areas where density is similar to other European countries.