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You don't have to have any appetite for a land war to say you gotta free your concentration camps within 18 months or we have to come invade. It's a million peo

You don't have to have any appetite for a land war to say you gotta free your concentration camps within 18 months or we have to come invade. It's a million people.

sobellian 6y ago
If it isn't a credible threat it won't be very effective. Gathering a coalition to embargo China would be a more credible threat, but even that requires some legwork to develop an alternative set of trading partners.
trasz 6y ago
Problem is, the concentration camps are just as real as weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
- _-david-_ 6y ago
  You are correct but not in the way you think. WMD were found in Iraq and the concentration camps are real. https://www.wired.com/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/ https://www.wired.com/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-contin...
  - trasz 6y ago
    If you insist on calling something resembling juvenile detention centers a "concentration camps", then indeed, they do exist.
ReptileMan 6y ago
And you will be in the first wave of the invasion force? The one that takes 90+ % casualties?
croes 6y ago
The US had no problem with dead 500,000 Iraqi Children, why should they care for a million uighurs? What if China says they will release them if we take them in? Then suddenly there wouldn't be any uighurs but only Muslims and we "know" they are all "terrorists".
- apatters 6y ago
  This statement smelled fishy to me as there are only 40M or so people in Iraq to begin with, so I Googled around a bit. Despite politicians and talking heads claiming for years that either Desert Storm, UN sanctions, or both caused half a million child deaths, evidently most studies found that the child mortality rate in Iraq was unchanged throughout the 1990s. https://psmag.com/news/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433 https://psmag.com/news/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433 https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Iraqi-death-toll-doesnt-add-up.pdf https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Iraqi-death-toll-doe... While this apparently fake statistic has mostly been used to criticize the US and UN, it seems Tony Blair used it to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq, claiming the dead kids were Saddam's fault. I guess this is why I don't read the papers much anymore.
  - croes 6y ago
    Whether or not there really were so many dead children or not does not change anything in Albright's statement. If it serves the goals of the USA, they are willing to let 500.000 children die.
    - apatters 6y ago
      OK. But if you believed that lie, how many other lies do you believe?
      - croes 6y ago
        Which lie? I refer only to her statement, which illustrates her character and that of the USA. The correct answer from her would have been, "it's not 500,000, but every dead child is one too many". They didn't care about 500.000 dead Iraqi children, period. If the children really died, is important to the children and their families not for the characterization.

You don't have to have any appetite for a land war to say you gotta free your concentration camps within 18 months or we have to come invade. It's a million people.

sobellian 6y ago

If it isn't a credible threat it won't be very effective. Gathering a coalition to embargo China would be a more credible threat, but even that requires some legwork to develop an alternative set of trading partners.

trasz 6y ago

Problem is, the concentration camps are just as real as weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

_-david-_ 6y ago
You are correct but not in the way you think. WMD were found in Iraq and the concentration camps are real. https://www.wired.com/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/ https://www.wired.com/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-contin...
- trasz 6y ago
  If you insist on calling something resembling juvenile detention centers a "concentration camps", then indeed, they do exist.

ReptileMan 6y ago

And you will be in the first wave of the invasion force? The one that takes 90+ % casualties?

croes 6y ago

The US had no problem with dead 500,000 Iraqi Children, why should they care for a million uighurs? What if China says they will release them if we take them in? Then suddenly there wouldn't be any uighurs but only Muslims and we "know" they are all "terrorists".

apatters 6y ago
This statement smelled fishy to me as there are only 40M or so people in Iraq to begin with, so I Googled around a bit. Despite politicians and talking heads claiming for years that either Desert Storm, UN sanctions, or both caused half a million child deaths, evidently most studies found that the child mortality rate in Iraq was unchanged throughout the 1990s. https://psmag.com/news/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433 https://psmag.com/news/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433 https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Iraqi-death-toll-doesnt-add-up.pdf https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Iraqi-death-toll-doe... While this apparently fake statistic has mostly been used to criticize the US and UN, it seems Tony Blair used it to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq, claiming the dead kids were Saddam's fault. I guess this is why I don't read the papers much anymore.
- croes 6y ago
  Whether or not there really were so many dead children or not does not change anything in Albright's statement. If it serves the goals of the USA, they are willing to let 500.000 children die.
  - apatters 6y ago
    OK. But if you believed that lie, how many other lies do you believe?
    - croes 6y ago
      Which lie? I refer only to her statement, which illustrates her character and that of the USA. The correct answer from her would have been, "it's not 500,000, but every dead child is one too many". They didn't care about 500.000 dead Iraqi children, period. If the children really died, is important to the children and their families not for the characterization.