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In this story: > heroin would be diluted with more than five tons of marble dust from a quarry on nearby Mount Pentelikon heroin diluted with marble? it this

In this story: > heroin would be diluted with more than five tons of marble dust from a quarry on nearby Mount Pentelikon heroin diluted with marble? it this real?

greenyoda 6y ago
A search turned up this example of cocaine being diluted with marble powder: > High concentrations of Al, Ca, Fe, Mg, Mn, and P were found, indicating that adulterants such as gypsum, marble powder, limestone, cement, and others must be used to increase the profitability of the illicit drug market. http://static.sites.sbq.org.br/jbcs.sbq.org.br/pdf/2020-0204AR.pdf http://static.sites.sbq.org.br/jbcs.sbq.org.br/pdf/2020-0204... Diluting a very expensive product with something very cheap and selling it for the price of the pure product would certainly be a way of increasing profits. From what I've read, many overdoses happen when users who are used to diluted heroin get hold of pure heroin, ending up with a much bigger dose than expected. The paper I cited notes another risk for cocaine users: "Diluting substances such as talc, plaster, lime and chalk, used to increase the volume of the drug, are not absorbed and can cause chronic obstructive pulmonary diseases, such as silicosis".
- Gibbon1 6y ago
  One of my 'if were dictator' pronouncements. I'd make it a misdemeanor to sell Heroin and hard felony to sell adulterated Heroin.
  - HarryHirsch 6y ago
    That's why people take prescription opiates - it says right on the tin how much it is. With the street stuff you have to estimate the purity, even the compound, there's dozens of opiates, and sometimes people get it wrong.
    - Scoundreller 6y ago
      And when you’re dealing with fentanyls, there’s huge dose to dose variation due to uneven mixing. Mixing something 1:1000 is a lot harder than 1:10, especially when you’re just dealing with solid particles of ??? sizing.
      - Gibbon1 6y ago
        A raver told me once about trying to cut a gram of MDMA with powered sugar. One person got 3 times the normal dose and couple of people got nothing.
        HarryHirsch 6y ago
        With that in mind, why do people want to abolish the FDA? They are the ones overseeing quality control in generics.
- lowdose 6y ago
  I have never seen coke cut up with those substances. Mannitol is mainly used in Europe. To test cocaine on how pure it is many people test it by checking how much solves in water.
deepsun 6y ago
In Russia (Saint Petersburg) two amateur drug dealers were charged for police murder because they didn't know they should dilute their shit, and a policeman died after using the seized goods, because they were too pure.

In this story: > heroin would be diluted with more than five tons of marble dust from a quarry on nearby Mount Pentelikon heroin diluted with marble? it this real?

greenyoda 6y ago

A search turned up this example of cocaine being diluted with marble powder: > High concentrations of Al, Ca, Fe, Mg, Mn, and P were found, indicating that adulterants such as gypsum, marble powder, limestone, cement, and others must be used to increase the profitability of the illicit drug market. http://static.sites.sbq.org.br/jbcs.sbq.org.br/pdf/2020-0204AR.pdf http://static.sites.sbq.org.br/jbcs.sbq.org.br/pdf/2020-0204... Diluting a very expensive product with something very cheap and selling it for the price of the pure product would certainly be a way of increasing profits. From what I've read, many overdoses happen when users who are used to diluted heroin get hold of pure heroin, ending up with a much bigger dose than expected. The paper I cited notes another risk for cocaine users: "Diluting substances such as talc, plaster, lime and chalk, used to increase the volume of the drug, are not absorbed and can cause chronic obstructive pulmonary diseases, such as silicosis".

Gibbon1 6y ago
One of my 'if were dictator' pronouncements. I'd make it a misdemeanor to sell Heroin and hard felony to sell adulterated Heroin.
- HarryHirsch 6y ago
  That's why people take prescription opiates - it says right on the tin how much it is. With the street stuff you have to estimate the purity, even the compound, there's dozens of opiates, and sometimes people get it wrong.
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    And when you’re dealing with fentanyls, there’s huge dose to dose variation due to uneven mixing. Mixing something 1:1000 is a lot harder than 1:10, especially when you’re just dealing with solid particles of ??? sizing.
    - Gibbon1 6y ago
      A raver told me once about trying to cut a gram of MDMA with powered sugar. One person got 3 times the normal dose and couple of people got nothing.
      - HarryHirsch 6y ago
        With that in mind, why do people want to abolish the FDA? They are the ones overseeing quality control in generics.
lowdose 6y ago
I have never seen coke cut up with those substances. Mannitol is mainly used in Europe. To test cocaine on how pure it is many people test it by checking how much solves in water.

deepsun 6y ago

In Russia (Saint Petersburg) two amateur drug dealers were charged for police murder because they didn't know they should dilute their shit, and a policeman died after using the seized goods, because they were too pure.