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As my ex-colleague says "Any advertisement is propaganda".

rexpop 6y ago
And all propaganda is political.
cassianoleal 6y ago
I believe in most Latin languages there isn't a separate word. At least in Portuguese and Spanish, both advertisement and propaganda are simply "propaganda".
- rbanffy 6y ago
  You can also use "publicidade" in Portuguese, but "propaganda" is not used exclusively for "political propaganda".
- yesenadam 6y ago
  Not true. In spanish, "ad" is usually anuncio, or sometimes comercial or publicidad. Propaganda can also be used, but is less common than those i think, I've never heard it used. I once read an original edition of Bernays' Propaganda (1928) with its title in a jaunty typeface on the cover, before the word had a negative connotation. Pic of its cover here: https://www.baumanrarebooks.com/rare-books/edward--bernays/propaganda/100407.aspx https://www.baumanrarebooks.com/rare-books/edward--bernays/p...
  - cassianoleal 6y ago
    I have definitely heard "propaganda" in South American Spanish-speaking countries. Perhaps a regional quirk?
hapticmonkey 6y ago
I prefer David Foster Wallace's description of advertising: "It did what all ads are supposed to do: create an anxiety relievable by purchase.”
- lozf 6y ago
  I always liked: "Advertising robs you of your dignity, and sells it back to you at the price of the product."
  - TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
    With the arguable exception of therapy/counselling, you can never retrieve your dignity and self-worth by buying a product. So all it really does is sell the promise.
    - adamsea 6y ago
      True. As a side point, IMHO, therapy and counseling are not products. They’re services, and, even more so, should be a service bound by a medical code of ethics, which, since the healing professions go way back, imho makes therapy and counseling distinct from many other services. :)
    - rexpop 6y ago
      So advertisements deplete dignity, with no recompense or amelioration? No wonder our society's replete with indignity.

And all propaganda is political.

I believe in most Latin languages there isn't a separate word. At least in Portuguese and Spanish, both advertisement and propaganda are simply "propaganda".

rbanffy 6y ago
You can also use "publicidade" in Portuguese, but "propaganda" is not used exclusively for "political propaganda".
yesenadam 6y ago
Not true. In spanish, "ad" is usually anuncio, or sometimes comercial or publicidad. Propaganda can also be used, but is less common than those i think, I've never heard it used. I once read an original edition of Bernays' Propaganda (1928) with its title in a jaunty typeface on the cover, before the word had a negative connotation. Pic of its cover here: https://www.baumanrarebooks.com/rare-books/edward--bernays/propaganda/100407.aspx https://www.baumanrarebooks.com/rare-books/edward--bernays/p...
- cassianoleal 6y ago
  I have definitely heard "propaganda" in South American Spanish-speaking countries. Perhaps a regional quirk?

hapticmonkey 6y ago

I prefer David Foster Wallace's description of advertising: "It did what all ads are supposed to do: create an anxiety relievable by purchase.”

lozf 6y ago
I always liked: "Advertising robs you of your dignity, and sells it back to you at the price of the product."
- TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
  With the arguable exception of therapy/counselling, you can never retrieve your dignity and self-worth by buying a product. So all it really does is sell the promise.
  - adamsea 6y ago
    True. As a side point, IMHO, therapy and counseling are not products. They’re services, and, even more so, should be a service bound by a medical code of ethics, which, since the healing professions go way back, imho makes therapy and counseling distinct from many other services. :)
  - rexpop 6y ago
    So advertisements deplete dignity, with no recompense or amelioration? No wonder our society's replete with indignity.