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The real design flaw here is not conveniently being able to set the volume per application. Most systems are able to do this, but don't expose that functionalit

The real design flaw here is not conveniently being able to set the volume per application. Most systems are able to do this, but don't expose that functionality conveniently. In my opinion the volume keys should only be adjusting the volume for the application/website currently in focus.

theon144 6y ago
No, the real design flaw is just what he describes. What you're saying, while alleviating some instances of the problem, still fundamentally allows for these kinds of ear-destroying/vicinity-blasting situations. The lack of an unambiguous, direct, easily accessible kill-switch for something such as audio is an oversight no matter the auxiliary convenience.
wongarsu 6y ago
It's just one click more on windows (instead of left click on speaker icon you have to right click -> open volume mixer). It's incredibly useful, but browsers bring it to its limits: I can only adjust the volume of the entire browser, not individual tabs. And the solutions browsers have come up with are worse (only mute/unmute) and don't scale beyond 20 tabs or so.
lopmotr 6y ago
No way. You'll never remember which thing you last set to silent or too loud and next time it'll come out surprisingly wrong. You might not know which window is in focus, and it might not be the one playing the sound. If you do accidentally turn up, say your web browser while trying to adjust your media player, you'll never know how much too loud it will be until next time some autoplaying video starts. It would be a frustrating mess. Just change the volume when you turn the knob without any stupid computer logic trying to get in your way.
toast0 6y ago
> In my opinion the volume keys should only be adjusting the volume for the application/website currently in focus. If that extends to the mute button, that's definitely not the right thing for this application. If I can't turn off the fine noise before I find the fine application that's making it, I'm just going to pull the fine power.
heavenlyblue 6y ago
You can do this conveniently in windows using the standard mixer and in Linux using pavucontrol (that is a UI utility).
heavyset_go 6y ago
You can do this by default with Plasma Desktop on Linux.

theon144 6y ago

No, the real design flaw is just what he describes. What you're saying, while alleviating some instances of the problem, still fundamentally allows for these kinds of ear-destroying/vicinity-blasting situations. The lack of an unambiguous, direct, easily accessible kill-switch for something such as audio is an oversight no matter the auxiliary convenience.

wongarsu 6y ago

It's just one click more on windows (instead of left click on speaker icon you have to right click -> open volume mixer). It's incredibly useful, but browsers bring it to its limits: I can only adjust the volume of the entire browser, not individual tabs. And the solutions browsers have come up with are worse (only mute/unmute) and don't scale beyond 20 tabs or so.

lopmotr 6y ago

No way. You'll never remember which thing you last set to silent or too loud and next time it'll come out surprisingly wrong. You might not know which window is in focus, and it might not be the one playing the sound. If you do accidentally turn up, say your web browser while trying to adjust your media player, you'll never know how much too loud it will be until next time some autoplaying video starts. It would be a frustrating mess. Just change the volume when you turn the knob without any stupid computer logic trying to get in your way.

toast0 6y ago

> In my opinion the volume keys should only be adjusting the volume for the application/website currently in focus. If that extends to the mute button, that's definitely not the right thing for this application. If I can't turn off the fine noise before I find the fine application that's making it, I'm just going to pull the fine power.

heavenlyblue 6y ago

You can do this conveniently in windows using the standard mixer and in Linux using pavucontrol (that is a UI utility).

heavyset_go 6y ago

You can do this by default with Plasma Desktop on Linux.