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It's bad, but compared to other industries there are some real pluses. At least you can actually hunker down and do these silly tests. There's a huge amount of
by lordnacho 6y ago
It's bad, but compared to other industries there are some real pluses.
At least you can actually hunker down and do these silly tests. There's a huge amount of advice on the technical stuff.
And yes it means people who have a job already are disadvantaged, but that also means people who have no income have a way in.
In a lot of other industries, there's no real way to boost your game. Often it's purely reputation of your school and previous employers, and your feedback on a failed application is just platitudes. People circle around for ages and never find anything but crappy advice that doesn't work.
It's also a process that makes bias a little bit harder to introduce. If your pal from the country club can't fizzbuzz, it will be hard to convince people to accept him. Not saying this is bullet proof, but in most jobs it's a lot more vague whether someone is terrible.
- gcheong 6y agoIf only it had stopped at fizzbuzz as a quick check for whether you can meet the lowest bar for coding I think it would still have some merit but it just seems to have gotten out of hand to the point that ability to get a job now is completely decoupled from your prior experience.
- bradlys 6y agoIt's an arms race. Big name employers only wanted the top 1% of candidates. A bunch of people wanted to get into the top 1% and figured out a way (leetcode, ctci, etc.). And then employers kept only wanting the top 1% - so they just raised the bar higher and higher. Now we're at the scale where if you haven't done a minimum of 200 problems before any interview round - you're not likely getting an offer from FAANG/etc.
- triyambakam 6y agoCtci?
- hinkley 6y agoI wonder if anyone at FAANG has figured out that they collectively employ over 1% of the developers in the US. What they are trying to do is not just practically impossible, it is literally impossible.
- bradlys 6y agoConsidering that a significant (half or more?) portion of their engineers are from other countries... is it not still the 1%?