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It took a long time but I migrated my handwriting workflow over to a Remarkable tablet (v1, my v2 coming in a week or so). It is quite good from a writing pers
by jonahbenton 6y ago
It took a long time but I migrated my handwriting workflow over to a Remarkable tablet (v1, my v2 coming in a week or so).
It is quite good from a writing perspective. I very much loved the tactile experience of a good fountain pen and nib on robust heavy paper. Remarkable is not that, of course, but a worthy experience in its own right. I am using it at this moment for some creative technical design work.
It is less good from a reviewing and rereading perspective. Even at the finest line width I have to work a little harder to read back through my poor script- something I much less frequently found problematic on paper. And page turning and locating earlier notes in a 20-50 page document (an amount I easily produce weekly, sometimes daily) is much less ergonomic than with paper.
The recognition does not work with my writing, but I can see that improving and that feature becoming killer in the context of more structured document authoring on the Remarkable, like filling out a templated form with gestures or short letter/word notes. They are not far from that capability.
And on the whole I have gotten to a place where the ritual is satisfying and useful. Not perfect, but paper and pen, however enjoyable, were not perfect either.
I have also recently become aware of a product called Papyr, which has two features of interest- a larger writing surface, and live synchronization with other Papyr devices and with software on iPad or desktop. It may be able to be a useful shared whiteboard.
- jjoonathan 6y ago> page turning and locating earlier notes in a 20-50 page document (an amount I easily produce weekly, sometimes daily) is much less ergonomic than with paper. That's why I went with an iPad over Remarkable for note taking. I LOVE my kindle's e-ink display, but from what I saw Remarkable just doesn't let you zoom and pan through your notes and cross-reference with the same fluidity as a tablet, and I decided that was more important. Hopefully they figure out how to get e-ink FPS up because I would love to have the best of both worlds.
- amelius 6y agoYes, this is also the sole reason why I'm not using e-ink displays yet.
- BrianSenator 6y agoWhat iPad apps do you use for note taking?
- jjoonathan 6y agoGoodNotes and LiquidText for lectures and papers respectively. There is a significant amount of path dependence in those choices. Youtube reviews are probably the best way to get a feel for the current competitive landscape (e.g. GoodNotes vs Notability, MarginNote vs LiquidText).
- hydroxideOH- 6y agoI've been using a 2 in 1 Linux laptop for similar use cases, but the software options aren't amazing. How well does the iPad handle hand recognition when using a pen? Does it accidentally scroll down PDFs or lag when you are switching from pen to fingers to zoom or pan?
- jjoonathan 6y agoThe apple pen, touch recognition, palm rejection, and 120Hz + low latency are truly spectacular. I don't want to say flawless, but that's purely on principle, I can't think of a single screwup. Even my (employer's) macbook pro has a palm rejection failure about once a week, which is very good, but the ipad is better still. The base OS and websites have silky smooth scrolling, ditto for PDFs, even gnarly text book PDFs with scribbles everywhere. The pencil is super accurate, it has no problems hitting 1x1mm (or 2x2mm maybe) badges in LiquidText, and the size is perfect. It looks too big, but it's smaller than it looks. Apple did a good job earning their Apple Tax on this one.
- criddell 6y agoYou can get an iPad for $329 and a Pencil for another $100. There isn't much of an Apple tax in that at all. If you factor in the price of software - Procreate for $10 and GoodNotes for $8 - it's a pretty amazing value.
- threatofrain 6y agoI wonder what changes to effect size we might see between writing on paper and writing on a tablet.
- criddell 6y ago> The recognition does not work with my writing, but I can see that improving and that feature becoming killer Why not alter your handwriting to work better with the software? My first handwriting recognition experience was on a Palm Pilot using Graffiti. I got to be pretty fast with that and I think being forced to create better letter forms has benefited me greatly since then. I too have a Remarkable V2 on the way but for now I'm using GoodNotes on an iPad and I also scan pages of my notes and stick them in Evernote. Both GoodNotes and Evernote give me almost perfect OCR.