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I see many developers betting on VR. I could see it happening everywhere but at home. At best VR somehow is a perfect argument on why people should play escape

by jokoon 6y ago

I see many developers betting on VR. I could see it happening everywhere but at home. At best VR somehow is a perfect argument on why people should play escape games or paintball/airsoft. It sound like a second version of the google glass. You just need to use some common logic: a video game works on a screen. It's too difficult to add new sensors. You cannot bridge reality and virtuality. You either have a video game or a normal game/toy/puzzle, you cannot have both. Maybe the military will come up with new sensors, but until then, I would not bet on VR.

wlesieutre 6y ago
VR games are great at home already. I'm not sure I understand your common logic about video games working on a screen. Is playing real paintball more immersive and real than playing VR paintball in Rec Room? Of course it is. It's also an expensive hobby with a bunch of equipment that requires you to set aside hours of time and drive to a paintball arena. You can't just jump from "This isn't a 100% faithful reproduction of real life activities" to "This is pointless and will never catch on." Pong is clearly inspired by ping pong, but you wouldn't have played it in the 70's and said "Pong is not the same as ping pong, video games aren't going anywhere." Funnily enough, ping pong is one of the more convincing VR experiences because you only need to move in a small area, and the small haptic feedback from the controller is close enough to a ball hitting the paddle. Just don't try to lean on the table, it's not there.
- jokoon 6y ago
  Thanks for the input I just have more faith in augmented reality. Less latency problems, more possibilities of games like pokemon go. I'm curious why they didn't try a version with transparent screens.
kevstev 6y ago
I tend to disagree. I won an Occulus Go at a meetup and almost gave it away- I didn't realize what I had won and just assumed it was some kind of upgraded google cardboard. I was really surprised and delighted at how cool it was. It felt raw and fresh- almost like when I first got on the internet, there was just a whole new world to explore, and different types of content and games- some were cool, some were not, but were at least interesting in their mechanics. Especially during covid, I found it super neat that I could watch a basketball game in a "section" of a stadium and chat with those around me, and similarly watch a band perform. The biggest drawback is that the form factor isn't all that comfortable, and battery life is an issue, but I think there is a tremendous amount of potential in terms of experiences.
- jayd16 6y ago
  You should try a 6Degree of freedom headset like the Quest or a PCVR headset too. It really does click into a sense of reality.
jtsiskin 6y ago
It doesn’t sound like you have tried a Quest. I’m not sure I understand your argument at all - what is the logic you are following?
- sedatk 6y ago
  I don’t think OP’s tried VR either. Any of my friends who tried VR once was immediately blown away by it. It’s such a paradigm shift. You want a play paintball in space, in a medieval setting? It happens immediately. There is nothing in real life that makes up for it.
  - buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
    Watching someone try a good VR headset for the first time is so fun. It takes mere seconds for it to “click”, without fail.
numpad0 6y ago
I don’t get your comment fully, but I’m an VR advocate, have Google Glass, 1st gen LG G Watch, Recon Jet, 3rd gen Apple Watch with FeliCa payment, and also an airsoft guy, and one of my friend was talking about cool escape room ideas combined with VR pre-COVID. uh oh.

by jokoon 6y ago

wlesieutre 6y ago

VR games are great at home already. I'm not sure I understand your common logic about video games working on a screen. Is playing real paintball more immersive and real than playing VR paintball in Rec Room? Of course it is. It's also an expensive hobby with a bunch of equipment that requires you to set aside hours of time and drive to a paintball arena. You can't just jump from "This isn't a 100% faithful reproduction of real life activities" to "This is pointless and will never catch on." Pong is clearly inspired by ping pong, but you wouldn't have played it in the 70's and said "Pong is not the same as ping pong, video games aren't going anywhere." Funnily enough, ping pong is one of the more convincing VR experiences because you only need to move in a small area, and the small haptic feedback from the controller is close enough to a ball hitting the paddle. Just don't try to lean on the table, it's not there.

jokoon 6y ago
Thanks for the input I just have more faith in augmented reality. Less latency problems, more possibilities of games like pokemon go. I'm curious why they didn't try a version with transparent screens.

kevstev 6y ago

I tend to disagree. I won an Occulus Go at a meetup and almost gave it away- I didn't realize what I had won and just assumed it was some kind of upgraded google cardboard. I was really surprised and delighted at how cool it was. It felt raw and fresh- almost like when I first got on the internet, there was just a whole new world to explore, and different types of content and games- some were cool, some were not, but were at least interesting in their mechanics. Especially during covid, I found it super neat that I could watch a basketball game in a "section" of a stadium and chat with those around me, and similarly watch a band perform. The biggest drawback is that the form factor isn't all that comfortable, and battery life is an issue, but I think there is a tremendous amount of potential in terms of experiences.

jayd16 6y ago
You should try a 6Degree of freedom headset like the Quest or a PCVR headset too. It really does click into a sense of reality.

jtsiskin 6y ago

It doesn’t sound like you have tried a Quest. I’m not sure I understand your argument at all - what is the logic you are following?

sedatk 6y ago
I don’t think OP’s tried VR either. Any of my friends who tried VR once was immediately blown away by it. It’s such a paradigm shift. You want a play paintball in space, in a medieval setting? It happens immediately. There is nothing in real life that makes up for it.
- buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
  Watching someone try a good VR headset for the first time is so fun. It takes mere seconds for it to “click”, without fail.

numpad0 6y ago

I don’t get your comment fully, but I’m an VR advocate, have Google Glass, 1st gen LG G Watch, Recon Jet, 3rd gen Apple Watch with FeliCa payment, and also an airsoft guy, and one of my friend was talking about cool escape room ideas combined with VR pre-COVID. uh oh.