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What constitutes transphobic exactly? Is it in the eye of the beholder, like porn: you'll know it when you see it?

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
It’s fundamentally postmodern: impact matters, not intent. Meaning: if someone’s triggered and distressed by anything and you trigger them, you’re in the wrong, not them.
- dolguldur 6y ago
  I never thought about it like this but this covers surprisingly much of what's currently happening.
  - gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
    If you're interested in understanding how postmodernism has been subverting meaning, motivating chaos, and how it's married to activism watch this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xILBpDOqD-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xILBpDOqD-A It does a good job summarizing key ideas from Derrida, et. al. At the end of the day, people are frantically grasping for power by spreading doubt into all modes of communication, institutions, cultural ideas, etc.
- johnisgood 6y ago
  Some people need some stoicism in their life for sure.
- tasuki 6y ago
  I am distressed by people thinking that's a reasonable point of view.
sp332 6y ago
He had Abigail Shrier as a guest to promote her book called Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters, so that's kind of a bright line?
- xiphias2 6y ago
  She brought attention that people put social pressure on underage teens to get trans operation without their parents' consent. I would be very angry if it would happen to my 13-17 year old daughter, as children in that age are not yet capable of understanding the consequences of the operation for there whole life (includung shortening it and making it painful by injecting hormones).
  - krageon 6y ago
    While on one hand yes, I understand that as a parent you want to guard your children against decisions that you feel might negatively impact them you have to keep in mind that there is a reason why a teenager goes to someone else with their problems. That reason starts with your behaviour as the parent, and not with an environmental factor. That said, children are not your property. They are your responsibility. If you're doing your job right, they've at that point been educated about what it means when someone transitions and what sort of impact it has on their life. During that talk, I expect you would speak about why you think that shouldn't happen before they're done growing. Out of respect for the emotional place this post most likely came from, I will refrain from addressing the frankly problematic sentence you put between hypotheses at the end of your post at length.
    - xiphias2 6y ago
      ,,If you're doing your job right, they've at that point been educated about what it means when someone transitions and what sort of impact it has on their life. ,,During that talk, I expect you would speak about why you think that shouldn't happen before they're done growing.'' I have no opinion actually on whether the transition should happen or not, I'm sorry if I came out too strongly about that. I believe it can be a good decision if a child is clearly behaving and feeling like she is a boy. What I'm most afraid is that lesbian children thinking that heterosexual girls will like them if they transition. The parents are responsible for the children as long as they are given the chance to respond, which is taken away by law in a few countries. But I'm right now 38 and I still have lots of secrets about my sexual life that I don't talk about with my parents, and I think that's OK, as none of them can be compared to the consequences of transitioning. What I see really important is to make sure that people know about the changing laws, make sure that those important changes are talked about.

It’s fundamentally postmodern: impact matters, not intent. Meaning: if someone’s triggered and distressed by anything and you trigger them, you’re in the wrong, not them.

dolguldur 6y ago
I never thought about it like this but this covers surprisingly much of what's currently happening.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  If you're interested in understanding how postmodernism has been subverting meaning, motivating chaos, and how it's married to activism watch this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xILBpDOqD-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xILBpDOqD-A It does a good job summarizing key ideas from Derrida, et. al. At the end of the day, people are frantically grasping for power by spreading doubt into all modes of communication, institutions, cultural ideas, etc.
johnisgood 6y ago
Some people need some stoicism in their life for sure.
tasuki 6y ago
I am distressed by people thinking that's a reasonable point of view.

sp332 6y ago

He had Abigail Shrier as a guest to promote her book called Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters, so that's kind of a bright line?

xiphias2 6y ago
She brought attention that people put social pressure on underage teens to get trans operation without their parents' consent. I would be very angry if it would happen to my 13-17 year old daughter, as children in that age are not yet capable of understanding the consequences of the operation for there whole life (includung shortening it and making it painful by injecting hormones).
- krageon 6y ago
  While on one hand yes, I understand that as a parent you want to guard your children against decisions that you feel might negatively impact them you have to keep in mind that there is a reason why a teenager goes to someone else with their problems. That reason starts with your behaviour as the parent, and not with an environmental factor. That said, children are not your property. They are your responsibility. If you're doing your job right, they've at that point been educated about what it means when someone transitions and what sort of impact it has on their life. During that talk, I expect you would speak about why you think that shouldn't happen before they're done growing. Out of respect for the emotional place this post most likely came from, I will refrain from addressing the frankly problematic sentence you put between hypotheses at the end of your post at length.
  - xiphias2 6y ago
    ,,If you're doing your job right, they've at that point been educated about what it means when someone transitions and what sort of impact it has on their life. ,,During that talk, I expect you would speak about why you think that shouldn't happen before they're done growing.'' I have no opinion actually on whether the transition should happen or not, I'm sorry if I came out too strongly about that. I believe it can be a good decision if a child is clearly behaving and feeling like she is a boy. What I'm most afraid is that lesbian children thinking that heterosexual girls will like them if they transition. The parents are responsible for the children as long as they are given the chance to respond, which is taken away by law in a few countries. But I'm right now 38 and I still have lots of secrets about my sexual life that I don't talk about with my parents, and I think that's OK, as none of them can be compared to the consequences of transitioning. What I see really important is to make sure that people know about the changing laws, make sure that those important changes are talked about.