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So many questions. Like, do you really need pokemon to live? And why specifically Super Castlevania, which is regarded as kind of a garbage castlevania (the pl

So many questions. Like, do you really need pokemon to live? And why specifically Super Castlevania, which is regarded as kind of a garbage castlevania (the player sprite is bigger so you get less of a heads up on whats ahead, and it's not part of the "metrovania" pantheon). Why Fusion and Super Metroid? Does the original LoZ hold up as well as say Link's Awakening? Why are there only 3 companies represented on this list? Did Capcom run over your pet dog?

simlevesque 6y ago
Metroid Fusion in my opinion was the king of Metroidvanias for a really long time. It achieved perfection.
- jldugger 6y ago
  I think there's a number of people upset it doesn't have any sequence breaks, is super linear, and much of the exploration is of the "guess and check" variety. https://youtu.be/FsZ9Bb4IW5s?t=1315 https://youtu.be/FsZ9Bb4IW5s?t=1315
  - simlevesque 6y ago
    > doesn't have any sequence breaks I would never hate on a game for this. > super linear point taken, but speedrunners would say otherwise. > much of the exploration is of the "guess and check" variety. I finished the game as a 10 year old so I think it wasn't too easy or too hard. To each his own !
    - jldugger 6y ago
      >I would never hate on a game for this. I think "achieved perfection" was the bar you set =) And Super Metroid set the bar quite high.
matwood 6y ago
It could be nostalgia or me remembering incorrectly, but Super Metroid felt like a shift to more story telling and environmental setting. When I first played it as a kid, in a dark room it was a bit scary. I felt as the character more than any other game I had played prior.
- jldugger 6y ago
  sorry, i wasn't clear: the emphasis was on _and_. pick one!
  - matwood 6y ago
    For me, easy choice - Super Metroid.
city41 6y ago
Super Castlevania is quite highly regarded by the Castlevania community. It's not the best Castlevania (Rondo of Blood is), but it's up there.
- jldugger 6y ago
  Really? It didn't even make polygon's top 10. https://www.polygon.com/features/2018/10/26/18011828/best-castlevania https://www.polygon.com/features/2018/10/26/18011828/best-ca...
  - city41 6y ago
    I do respect Jeremy Parish. But as a huge Castlevania fan myself I find that list pretty surprising. Obviously there is a lot of subjectivity in something like this. But I would argue Super Castlevania is better than many of the games he put above it. And to be totally fair, it's true SC is clunky and dated in several regards (it was a very early SNES title and it shows...) So maybe Jeremy dings it on those aspects more than others do. But I would argue it makes up for a lot of that in atmosphere, style and uniqueness.
LukeShu 6y ago
> Does the original LoZ hold up as well as say Link's Awakening? If you're only going to play one LoZ, play A Link to the Past. (I think "play the 3rd game" is pretty good advice for a lot of Nintendo series.) ALttP is when they figured out the formula; I played it after I played most of the others, and after playing it every other LoZ (at least the 2D ones) all kinda felt like a copy of ALttP, like they're each just remaking a different aspect of it (and adding in their own little gimmick). The original LoZ holds up, but is a very different game than the later games. The world is empty for you, there are no towns, just wilderness; it's being a kid exploring the woods behind your house, pretending you're alone in the world. The loss of sword beams when you take damage made me feel that taking damage is getting hurt, rather than just some meter in the corner of the screen that I need to keep up; more so than any other game.
komali2 6y ago
Mostly cause I had to have a short list. I think you should play links awakening too lol. Fusion is lit but you super metroid is like... The OG metroidvania.

simlevesque 6y ago

Metroid Fusion in my opinion was the king of Metroidvanias for a really long time. It achieved perfection.

jldugger 6y ago
I think there's a number of people upset it doesn't have any sequence breaks, is super linear, and much of the exploration is of the "guess and check" variety. https://youtu.be/FsZ9Bb4IW5s?t=1315 https://youtu.be/FsZ9Bb4IW5s?t=1315
- simlevesque 6y ago
  > doesn't have any sequence breaks I would never hate on a game for this. > super linear point taken, but speedrunners would say otherwise. > much of the exploration is of the "guess and check" variety. I finished the game as a 10 year old so I think it wasn't too easy or too hard. To each his own !
  - jldugger 6y ago
    >I would never hate on a game for this. I think "achieved perfection" was the bar you set =) And Super Metroid set the bar quite high.

matwood 6y ago

It could be nostalgia or me remembering incorrectly, but Super Metroid felt like a shift to more story telling and environmental setting. When I first played it as a kid, in a dark room it was a bit scary. I felt as the character more than any other game I had played prior.

jldugger 6y ago
sorry, i wasn't clear: the emphasis was on _and_. pick one!
- matwood 6y ago
  For me, easy choice - Super Metroid.

city41 6y ago

Super Castlevania is quite highly regarded by the Castlevania community. It's not the best Castlevania (Rondo of Blood is), but it's up there.

jldugger 6y ago
Really? It didn't even make polygon's top 10. https://www.polygon.com/features/2018/10/26/18011828/best-castlevania https://www.polygon.com/features/2018/10/26/18011828/best-ca...
- city41 6y ago
  I do respect Jeremy Parish. But as a huge Castlevania fan myself I find that list pretty surprising. Obviously there is a lot of subjectivity in something like this. But I would argue Super Castlevania is better than many of the games he put above it. And to be totally fair, it's true SC is clunky and dated in several regards (it was a very early SNES title and it shows...) So maybe Jeremy dings it on those aspects more than others do. But I would argue it makes up for a lot of that in atmosphere, style and uniqueness.

LukeShu 6y ago

> Does the original LoZ hold up as well as say Link's Awakening? If you're only going to play one LoZ, play A Link to the Past. (I think "play the 3rd game" is pretty good advice for a lot of Nintendo series.) ALttP is when they figured out the formula; I played it after I played most of the others, and after playing it every other LoZ (at least the 2D ones) all kinda felt like a copy of ALttP, like they're each just remaking a different aspect of it (and adding in their own little gimmick). The original LoZ holds up, but is a very different game than the later games. The world is empty for you, there are no towns, just wilderness; it's being a kid exploring the woods behind your house, pretending you're alone in the world. The loss of sword beams when you take damage made me feel that taking damage is getting hurt, rather than just some meter in the corner of the screen that I need to keep up; more so than any other game.

komali2 6y ago

Mostly cause I had to have a short list. I think you should play links awakening too lol. Fusion is lit but you super metroid is like... The OG metroidvania.