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They fish out dirts in others while their home country is never exposed to their investigative journalism.

by ejanus 6y ago

webmaven 6y ago
> They fish out dirts in others while their home country is never exposed to their investigative journalism. True, and the same can be said of RT, and many others. This actually seems to be the default configuration for the market in journalism (whether the funding comes from advertising or the state). Afflicting the comfortable even-handedly is a privilege very few news organizations have. There is almost always a hand that feeds them they are reluctant to bite. The best we can reasonably hope for (WRT Aljazeera) is a competing org with a different source of funding.
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  I think it's a win for us too. As long as there is media from every media it's eventually possible to come to the correct conclusion.
- kombucha111 6y ago
  Comparing RT and al Jazeera is laughable. RT is hot garbage.
tracer4201 6y ago
You can make the same argument about American news media. Fox News and MSNBC are propaganda machines for their respective political views/parties. I’m not sure what your comment adds to the discussion.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  That's a very different argument. Fox News and MSNBC are biased, no doubt, but the US is definitely "exposed to their investigative journalism". They spend quite a bit of time reporting on problems they see in US government and society.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    Are you sure that Al Jazeera doesn't? That is, I'm sure there will be no shortage of people who will explain how Fox News and MSNBC are happy to talk about problems as long as they don't rock the boat. It's fine to continuously speak about crumbling infrastructure, but it's not as fine to speak about the economical benefits of war and that the society happily accepts the death of hundreds of thousands of foreigners for it, because that would become very uncomfortable very quickly.
    - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
      I'm not an expert on Al Jazeera, but I've never seen a negative story from them about Qatar and the article seems to suggest the US government thinks they wouldn't. I'm not sure what you mean with the last parts of your sentence. I've definitely seen stories from Fox News and MSNBC about the economical benefits of war or foreigners dying in war. Many of the anchors on those networks take great pride in making things uncomfortable for the powers that be, although they disagree on precisely who those powerful people are.
    - ejanus 6y ago
      Have you seen economic benefits of paying low income foreign labour (Qatar)? Have you seen them investigate what was causing low income foreign workers to die suddenly? Did they investigate how they got the rights to host world cup? The list is endless.
vkou 6y ago
I quite frankly don't give two shits about what is happening in their home country, and whether or not they are doing anything about it. Because I don't live in it. If you want to be informed about the world, you aren't going to get there without reading radically different news sources, that don't share a common bias. If all you read is domestic news, your information sources have too much common bias for you to get a clear picture of what is actually happening.

They fish out dirts in others while their home country is never exposed to their investigative journalism.

by ejanus 6y ago

They fish out dirts in others while their home country is never exposed to their investigative journalism.

> They fish out dirts in others while their home country is never exposed to their investigative journalism. True, and the same can be said of RT, and many others. This actually seems to be the default configuration for the market in journalism (whether the funding comes from advertising or the state). Afflicting the comfortable even-handedly is a privilege very few news organizations have. There is almost always a hand that feeds them they are reluctant to bite. The best we can reasonably hope for (WRT Aljazeera) is a competing org with a different source of funding.

sudosysgen 6y ago
I think it's a win for us too. As long as there is media from every media it's eventually possible to come to the correct conclusion.
kombucha111 6y ago
Comparing RT and al Jazeera is laughable. RT is hot garbage.

tracer4201 6y ago

You can make the same argument about American news media. Fox News and MSNBC are propaganda machines for their respective political views/parties. I’m not sure what your comment adds to the discussion.

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
That's a very different argument. Fox News and MSNBC are biased, no doubt, but the US is definitely "exposed to their investigative journalism". They spend quite a bit of time reporting on problems they see in US government and society.
- luckylion 6y ago
  Are you sure that Al Jazeera doesn't? That is, I'm sure there will be no shortage of people who will explain how Fox News and MSNBC are happy to talk about problems as long as they don't rock the boat. It's fine to continuously speak about crumbling infrastructure, but it's not as fine to speak about the economical benefits of war and that the society happily accepts the death of hundreds of thousands of foreigners for it, because that would become very uncomfortable very quickly.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    I'm not an expert on Al Jazeera, but I've never seen a negative story from them about Qatar and the article seems to suggest the US government thinks they wouldn't. I'm not sure what you mean with the last parts of your sentence. I've definitely seen stories from Fox News and MSNBC about the economical benefits of war or foreigners dying in war. Many of the anchors on those networks take great pride in making things uncomfortable for the powers that be, although they disagree on precisely who those powerful people are.
  - ejanus 6y ago
    Have you seen economic benefits of paying low income foreign labour (Qatar)? Have you seen them investigate what was causing low income foreign workers to die suddenly? Did they investigate how they got the rights to host world cup? The list is endless.

vkou 6y ago

I quite frankly don't give two shits about what is happening in their home country, and whether or not they are doing anything about it. Because I don't live in it. If you want to be informed about the world, you aren't going to get there without reading radically different news sources, that don't share a common bias. If all you read is domestic news, your information sources have too much common bias for you to get a clear picture of what is actually happening.